1 00:00:40,380 --> 00:00:12,930 [Music] 2 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:40,390 hello and welcome to the show I'm Martin 3 00:00:47,370 --> 00:00:44,770 Willis your host we have a feedback loop 4 00:00:49,350 --> 00:00:47,380 coming through here somehow you know I 5 00:00:52,380 --> 00:00:49,360 don't see anywhere it is but anyway 6 00:00:53,670 --> 00:00:52,390 welcome to the show I am really excited 7 00:00:56,299 --> 00:00:53,680 about tonight's show 8 00:00:58,770 --> 00:00:56,309 unfortunately Alejandro is on the road 9 00:01:01,170 --> 00:00:58,780 traveling and he said oh darn you just 10 00:01:03,530 --> 00:01:01,180 can't he just can't he's not going 11 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:03,540 anywhere that where he can actually talk 12 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:07,690 with us so he is not going to be on the 13 00:01:14,570 --> 00:01:10,210 show but I have a show with what I 14 00:01:17,609 --> 00:01:14,580 consider two really wonderful nice guys 15 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:17,619 tonight San moranto is joining us from 16 00:01:21,960 --> 00:01:19,570 Chicago in the beginning of the show and 17 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:21,970 then after that we have preston Dennett 18 00:01:26,340 --> 00:01:23,890 and he has written a book about 19 00:01:28,740 --> 00:01:26,350 schoolyard ufos and we're going to be 20 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:28,750 talking all about that I want to thank 21 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:30,490 everyone that helps out with the show 22 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:32,410 and that means people behind the scenes 23 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:34,450 and also the people that help support 24 00:01:39,450 --> 00:01:37,570 the show and anybody that anybody can do 25 00:01:42,570 --> 00:01:39,460 that all you have to do is go over to 26 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:42,580 podcast UFO calm all that informations 27 00:01:50,340 --> 00:01:44,610 over there were also on patreon as well 28 00:01:52,740 --> 00:01:50,350 and I was just this last Sunday was that 29 00:01:54,900 --> 00:01:52,750 two days ago I was on the power cast and 30 00:01:57,359 --> 00:01:54,910 had a really good conversation with 31 00:01:59,749 --> 00:01:57,369 Randall and Gene over there and you can 32 00:02:04,249 --> 00:01:59,759 check that out over at the pyro cast and 33 00:02:06,990 --> 00:02:04,259 level-headed great conversations and 34 00:02:08,340 --> 00:02:07,000 also I mean it was just it was a real 35 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:08,350 pleasure and I've been thinking you know 36 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:11,530 maybe I'll get both of them at different 37 00:02:18,290 --> 00:02:14,050 times on this show it'd be a lot of fun 38 00:02:20,870 --> 00:02:18,300 I was really impressed at how 39 00:02:22,949 --> 00:02:20,880 knowledgeable but both of them are 40 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:22,959 Randall who I'd never talked to before 41 00:02:28,170 --> 00:02:25,330 really knew his stuff and it was a was a 42 00:02:36,630 --> 00:02:28,180 lot of fun and also let's see what else 43 00:02:38,220 --> 00:02:36,640 we have here if anyone would like to get 44 00:02:40,589 --> 00:02:38,230 a shout out if you support the show I'd 45 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:40,599 be happy to do that and I think I'm 46 00:02:45,390 --> 00:02:42,370 trying to read this I was sent a long 47 00:02:46,890 --> 00:02:45,400 email is simply asked David and Heather 48 00:02:48,839 --> 00:02:46,900 if I could do a shout out and 49 00:02:51,119 --> 00:02:48,849 Phoenix for them and he just wrote me a 50 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:51,129 long email back and I'm hoping somewhere 51 00:02:56,339 --> 00:02:53,530 in that email he says yeah go ahead 52 00:03:00,420 --> 00:02:56,349 but and I hope it doesn't say don't do a 53 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:00,430 showed up anyway so anyone that supports 54 00:03:04,410 --> 00:03:02,170 a show I'd be glad to do a shout out for 55 00:03:06,149 --> 00:03:04,420 you just email me and tell me if you 56 00:03:09,030 --> 00:03:06,159 want me to use your full name or just 57 00:03:14,729 --> 00:03:09,040 first name and that's Martin at podcast 58 00:03:17,099 --> 00:03:14,739 UFO comm and I am getting my good buddy 59 00:03:19,399 --> 00:03:17,109 here from Chicago on right now Sam 60 00:03:22,770 --> 00:03:19,409 moranto welcome to the show 61 00:03:24,390 --> 00:03:22,780 boy it's good to be back and great to 62 00:03:26,670 --> 00:03:24,400 hear your voice 63 00:03:30,930 --> 00:03:26,680 it was also magnificent to hear that 64 00:03:32,879 --> 00:03:30,940 wonderful race Hobbs on my gash what a 65 00:03:35,759 --> 00:03:32,889 wonderful voice I know what a radio 66 00:03:37,860 --> 00:03:35,769 voice huh one of a kind hey what do you 67 00:03:38,460 --> 00:03:37,870 think of my hat I got the I love it 68 00:03:40,530 --> 00:03:38,470 actually 69 00:03:43,679 --> 00:03:40,540 yeah all the time I say well I'm not 70 00:03:48,750 --> 00:03:43,689 necessarily saying it's aliens well my 71 00:03:51,689 --> 00:03:48,760 hat says anyway Santa so this is not a 72 00:03:54,089 --> 00:03:51,699 typical news segment I just wanted to 73 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:54,099 have you one because there's always 74 00:03:58,259 --> 00:03:56,410 something going on out in the Chicago 75 00:04:00,000 --> 00:03:58,269 Way and when I found out 76 00:04:04,229 --> 00:04:00,010 alejandro couldn't be on I thought wait 77 00:04:08,069 --> 00:04:04,239 so see if Sam could be on Sam first of 78 00:04:11,789 --> 00:04:08,079 all I know this is the near anniversary 79 00:04:15,780 --> 00:04:11,799 of a couple of major sightings let's see 80 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:15,790 was it November 7th 81 00:04:21,420 --> 00:04:19,090 O'Hare is that when that was you got it 82 00:04:25,850 --> 00:04:21,430 for twenty or so in the afternoon gate 83 00:04:28,620 --> 00:04:25,860 c-17 object sitting below the ceiling of 84 00:04:30,390 --> 00:04:28,630 approximately nineteen hundred feet and 85 00:04:33,589 --> 00:04:30,400 it's about four hundred and fifty feet 86 00:04:36,149 --> 00:04:33,599 below that this object is sitting there 87 00:04:37,890 --> 00:04:36,159 looking much like you know to some 88 00:04:40,490 --> 00:04:37,900 degree we keep hearing about this a tip 89 00:04:44,430 --> 00:04:40,500 tech tic-tac but if you look at a disk 90 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:44,440 object from a side angle it's just a 91 00:04:48,629 --> 00:04:45,970 matter of where you're looking at at 92 00:04:52,170 --> 00:04:48,639 your vantage point this object sat there 93 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:52,180 for a good twenty plus minutes I had the 94 00:04:58,140 --> 00:04:54,849 privilege of speaking to three people 95 00:05:00,750 --> 00:04:58,150 who saw it a couple of other individuals 96 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:00,760 who are talking to people on the 97 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:03,370 radio who weren't able to see it 98 00:05:08,370 --> 00:05:05,530 themselves but were able to communicate 99 00:05:10,740 --> 00:05:08,380 with them as they were watching it and 100 00:05:14,150 --> 00:05:10,750 there is absolutely no doubt that this 101 00:05:17,340 --> 00:05:14,160 object that bolted through sky that day 102 00:05:21,150 --> 00:05:17,350 was not a lenticular cloud that went 103 00:05:27,450 --> 00:05:21,160 through that some 6,000 feet of ceiling 104 00:05:30,390 --> 00:05:27,460 of cloud layer that sat there and bolted 105 00:05:33,510 --> 00:05:30,400 through in an instance to the point that 106 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:33,520 people were gasping and and and reacting 107 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:36,130 with shock so we when you hear these 108 00:05:42,090 --> 00:05:39,330 these crazy stories that so-called 109 00:05:45,030 --> 00:05:42,100 skeptics come up with you could just 110 00:05:49,020 --> 00:05:45,040 remind them to take a peek at the NAR 111 00:05:53,340 --> 00:05:49,030 cap scientific technical report number 112 00:05:55,830 --> 00:05:53,350 10 and that's at NAR cap dot org read 113 00:05:58,380 --> 00:05:55,840 the details on that and if that isn't 114 00:06:01,130 --> 00:05:58,390 enough information I believe it's darn 115 00:06:04,740 --> 00:06:01,140 near 200 some pages of very good 116 00:06:07,350 --> 00:06:04,750 scientific evaluation and oh yes my 117 00:06:12,510 --> 00:06:07,360 interviews are in there so I definitely 118 00:06:14,460 --> 00:06:12,520 was part of the the case itself somebody 119 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:14,470 said I wasn't I don't know how that 120 00:06:23,310 --> 00:06:18,370 happened but I most certainly was and 121 00:06:27,180 --> 00:06:23,320 dance that was that was on the November 122 00:06:29,940 --> 00:06:27,190 the 7th 2006 now you just mentioned it 123 00:06:32,610 --> 00:06:29,950 wasn't a cloud and I'm I'm gonna ask you 124 00:06:35,330 --> 00:06:32,620 are you addressing I don't know if you 125 00:06:37,950 --> 00:06:35,340 listened to when I had Seth Shostak on I 126 00:06:41,730 --> 00:06:37,960 don't know what was it a three weeks ago 127 00:06:44,010 --> 00:06:41,740 but he's the one who he actually said it 128 00:06:45,210 --> 00:06:44,020 was a cloud is that is that kind of why 129 00:06:47,850 --> 00:06:45,220 you were addressing that in particular 130 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:47,860 yes and particularly I'm addressing that 131 00:06:56,190 --> 00:06:51,970 plus there was an astronomer from the 132 00:06:57,780 --> 00:06:56,200 Adler who came on was an interview that 133 00:06:59,820 --> 00:06:57,790 I was supposed to attend I didn't have 134 00:07:01,950 --> 00:06:59,830 time to to get down there and do it was 135 00:07:04,860 --> 00:07:01,960 one these last-minute phone calls they 136 00:07:07,590 --> 00:07:04,870 want to be in studio do an interview but 137 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:07,600 that notion was brought up stating that 138 00:07:12,300 --> 00:07:09,130 oh we know what it was a lenticular 139 00:07:13,940 --> 00:07:12,310 cloud first of all lenticular clouds are 140 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:13,950 rarely seen in the Midwest 141 00:07:19,190 --> 00:07:17,490 you have to have a pretty good wind to 142 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:19,200 create that and you'll find him on a 143 00:07:24,650 --> 00:07:21,930 leeward side of a mountain right or for 144 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:24,660 instance something very tall you do get 145 00:07:30,350 --> 00:07:26,010 them in the Midwest but they're 146 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:30,360 extremely rare one of my witnesses my 147 00:07:35,630 --> 00:07:33,570 main witness was a person did a lot of 148 00:07:38,420 --> 00:07:35,640 mountain climbing and when she heard 149 00:07:40,310 --> 00:07:38,430 lenticular cloud she said well that was 150 00:07:43,250 --> 00:07:40,320 just a bunch of Kaka as I'll she 151 00:07:46,730 --> 00:07:43,260 referred to it and there's no way 152 00:07:49,340 --> 00:07:46,740 possible that that was the case and this 153 00:07:52,670 --> 00:07:49,350 object sat there she was evaluating it 154 00:07:55,850 --> 00:07:52,680 as from the point of of what kind of 155 00:07:58,940 --> 00:07:55,860 construction it was actually made of she 156 00:08:02,980 --> 00:07:58,950 was a military brat her father was the 157 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:02,990 captain of an Air Wing for the Navy and 158 00:08:10,430 --> 00:08:07,170 she was raised and in the environment of 159 00:08:13,190 --> 00:08:10,440 of aviation and she knew the proper 160 00:08:19,670 --> 00:08:13,200 terminology when she came to analyzing 161 00:08:22,670 --> 00:08:19,680 the object she was also a reporter and a 162 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:22,680 very smart person she was a talking head 163 00:08:29,090 --> 00:08:24,570 for one of the television stations out 164 00:08:30,380 --> 00:08:29,100 there so and in Washington this was 165 00:08:35,020 --> 00:08:30,390 somebody that knew what she was talking 166 00:08:39,010 --> 00:08:35,030 about plus we had pilots we had a ground 167 00:08:43,580 --> 00:08:39,020 traffic personnel that were taxiing 168 00:08:47,180 --> 00:08:43,590 seven 737s back and forth to their 169 00:08:49,910 --> 00:08:47,190 hangars they seen it bottom line this 170 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:49,920 object was there I can't say it was 171 00:08:54,730 --> 00:08:51,210 something that was from out of this 172 00:08:58,430 --> 00:08:54,740 world but it exhibited some extremely 173 00:09:03,620 --> 00:08:58,440 remarkable technology Wow 174 00:09:06,260 --> 00:09:03,630 yeah another another real mystery as as 175 00:09:08,270 --> 00:09:06,270 they say and I know I've asked you this 176 00:09:10,580 --> 00:09:08,280 question it just seems like it's a 177 00:09:13,250 --> 00:09:10,590 matter of time before you know a pilot 178 00:09:16,190 --> 00:09:13,260 will retire you know the retirement age 179 00:09:19,430 --> 00:09:16,200 for a commercial pilot is 65 so they 180 00:09:22,610 --> 00:09:19,440 have to retire at 65 and it just seems 181 00:09:25,490 --> 00:09:22,620 like some should have retired by now 182 00:09:27,500 --> 00:09:25,500 that would want to talk about actually 183 00:09:30,050 --> 00:09:27,510 seeing this object 184 00:09:32,090 --> 00:09:30,060 I'm hoping that is the case one 185 00:09:36,230 --> 00:09:32,100 individual I did speak to was at a 186 00:09:38,390 --> 00:09:36,240 retirement was a senior group and this 187 00:09:42,380 --> 00:09:38,400 gentleman was a manager handling 188 00:09:47,590 --> 00:09:42,390 security underground built between gate 189 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:47,600 c-17 the gates C concourse and B's 190 00:09:54,500 --> 00:09:50,970 concourse and was managing the oversight 191 00:09:58,460 --> 00:09:54,510 of inspecting the luggage for security 192 00:10:00,500 --> 00:09:58,470 and he heard the chatter back and forth 193 00:10:03,110 --> 00:10:00,510 and he called his friend and the big 194 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:03,120 concourse was a manager and he was 195 00:10:10,790 --> 00:10:08,330 giving him a complete very well detailed 196 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:10,800 observation of what he was seeing and he 197 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:14,250 said by no accounts was that even 198 00:10:20,780 --> 00:10:17,010 remotely anything resembling a cloud it 199 00:10:25,910 --> 00:10:20,790 was an object cut-and-dry it was an 200 00:10:28,250 --> 00:10:25,920 object well I've been texting so I'm 201 00:10:30,890 --> 00:10:28,260 gonna have to actually say this and I 202 00:10:32,300 --> 00:10:30,900 apologize for saying this but some 203 00:10:35,780 --> 00:10:32,310 people are saying that there's no audio 204 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:35,790 over on kgr a radio currently so race if 205 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:38,610 you can hear me you may want to check 206 00:10:45,740 --> 00:10:42,330 that out they do have obviously to do 207 00:10:48,110 --> 00:10:45,750 have audio on YouTube because people are 208 00:10:53,300 --> 00:10:48,120 commenting about what we're talking 209 00:10:56,750 --> 00:10:53,310 about so you and I were talking a little 210 00:11:00,560 --> 00:10:56,760 bit earlier just chatting and you said 211 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:00,570 that Mothman I know this isn't UFOs but 212 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:02,610 Mothman just won't go away what's going 213 00:11:07,610 --> 00:11:05,010 on with that oh that fireman I tell you 214 00:11:09,740 --> 00:11:07,620 what we had another report that came in 215 00:11:12,380 --> 00:11:09,750 you know the whole whole series of 216 00:11:14,630 --> 00:11:12,390 Mothman reports that came in to move on 217 00:11:18,380 --> 00:11:14,640 which were about ten of them two of them 218 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:18,390 one was a call in one was an email that 219 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:22,170 came into the Illinois MUFON website not 220 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:25,170 from the MUFON CMS you know most of 221 00:11:30,500 --> 00:11:28,050 these if not all of them except for two 222 00:11:33,530 --> 00:11:30,510 I should say all except for two had no 223 00:11:37,010 --> 00:11:33,540 contact of information everything was 224 00:11:39,050 --> 00:11:37,020 just voided or fictitious and the 225 00:11:40,740 --> 00:11:39,060 details there was a lot of information 226 00:11:43,950 --> 00:11:40,750 it was just AB 227 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:43,960 solutely incorrect people being outside 228 00:11:49,530 --> 00:11:46,330 during the rain stating that they were 229 00:11:51,870 --> 00:11:49,540 seeing the reflection of the the the 230 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:51,880 moon and the eye of the the creature 231 00:11:57,540 --> 00:11:54,250 while they're out on Lake Michigan and 232 00:12:01,680 --> 00:11:57,550 three to seven foot waves at ten o'clock 233 00:12:04,020 --> 00:12:01,690 at night the moon was enough to 1143 I 234 00:12:07,050 --> 00:12:04,030 mean I don't we we understand all the 235 00:12:11,700 --> 00:12:07,060 things that cannot be altered and are 236 00:12:14,790 --> 00:12:11,710 just scientifically definitely solid as 237 00:12:17,130 --> 00:12:14,800 far as our available evidence and yet 238 00:12:19,650 --> 00:12:17,140 they come up with all this nonsense it 239 00:12:24,150 --> 00:12:19,660 seemed like all of them had very good 240 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:24,160 creative writing in play and some highly 241 00:12:29,370 --> 00:12:27,010 convincing narratives and this the same 242 00:12:31,170 --> 00:12:29,380 thing that's been going on but now 243 00:12:33,150 --> 00:12:31,180 what's going on is they're trying to 244 00:12:35,220 --> 00:12:33,160 turn it and all of a sudden the 245 00:12:38,490 --> 00:12:35,230 investigators are the bad guys because 246 00:12:41,370 --> 00:12:38,500 we're asking questions we'd like to have 247 00:12:44,070 --> 00:12:41,380 the people go out to the location point 248 00:12:46,860 --> 00:12:44,080 out exactly where something is so we 249 00:12:50,190 --> 00:12:46,870 could do the usual scientific stuff like 250 00:12:52,380 --> 00:12:50,200 figure out how high some something is in 251 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:52,390 the airs if you could triangulate it get 252 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:54,370 some idea on the size of the actual 253 00:13:00,570 --> 00:12:57,490 object nothing like this can go unless 254 00:13:03,060 --> 00:13:00,580 you have some help and this is a 255 00:13:05,940 --> 00:13:03,070 nonsense but it's starting up again 256 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:05,950 wouldn't it be nice to have some cryptid 257 00:13:10,380 --> 00:13:07,570 thing floating around that we could 258 00:13:12,540 --> 00:13:10,390 actually nail down and say here we get 259 00:13:16,290 --> 00:13:12,550 add this to the books of some new 260 00:13:18,230 --> 00:13:16,300 cryptid thing you know being whatever it 261 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:18,240 is if it's extraterrestrial 262 00:13:22,410 --> 00:13:20,170 interdimensional or just one more 263 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:22,420 freaking thing that we miss them out and 264 00:13:27,150 --> 00:13:24,610 it's been living in the bushes who knows 265 00:13:31,020 --> 00:13:27,160 but all the new reports are coming 266 00:13:33,540 --> 00:13:31,030 around from the area around the O'Hare 267 00:13:35,540 --> 00:13:33,550 field which is not a good place to go 268 00:13:39,510 --> 00:13:35,550 flying around if you're seven foot tall 269 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:39,520 well I didn't have any idea that it was 270 00:13:44,310 --> 00:13:40,930 ever around the airport is this 271 00:13:46,020 --> 00:13:44,320 something new yes this is a new area 272 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:46,030 that we're starting to get the reports 273 00:13:53,970 --> 00:13:48,970 from and again some of the information 274 00:13:55,020 --> 00:13:53,980 just doesn't add up the timelines but 275 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:55,030 then again 276 00:14:01,080 --> 00:13:58,210 all these reports the minute you start 277 00:14:05,940 --> 00:14:01,090 asking to end have a a phone interview 278 00:14:07,980 --> 00:14:05,950 or any other form of contact it they 279 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:07,990 they insisted your meddling that you're 280 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:10,330 being too pushy that they wish to stay 281 00:14:15,900 --> 00:14:12,970 anonymous if you call in a few son a 282 00:14:18,270 --> 00:14:15,910 report an anonymous you're already there 283 00:14:21,990 --> 00:14:18,280 I can't grant anonymity to something 284 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:22,000 that isn't no that's like that's an 285 00:14:28,020 --> 00:14:25,450 impossible act so the bottom line is if 286 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:28,030 you're gonna fill out a report expect to 287 00:14:33,150 --> 00:14:30,850 get some sort of communication from us 288 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:33,160 to at least get more detail to help you 289 00:14:38,550 --> 00:14:35,290 figure out what it is and that's all 290 00:14:40,470 --> 00:14:38,560 we're interested in doing yeah well hey 291 00:14:42,060 --> 00:14:40,480 Sam I can't believe how much the time 292 00:14:45,630 --> 00:14:42,070 has just flown by seems like we just 293 00:14:47,910 --> 00:14:45,640 started chatting here anyway thanks so 294 00:14:51,810 --> 00:14:47,920 much I appreciate you filling in for our 295 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:51,820 good friend Alejandro and you take care 296 00:14:57,420 --> 00:14:54,490 out in Chicago and my best to Julie and 297 00:14:59,670 --> 00:14:57,430 we'll talk soon yes take care I'll see 298 00:15:04,260 --> 00:14:59,680 ya alright alright everyone so our 299 00:15:08,790 --> 00:15:04,270 guests coming up now is Preston Dennett 300 00:15:12,390 --> 00:15:08,800 and Preston has been on I think to at 301 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:12,400 least two times I had real fun guy nice 302 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:16,410 guy always enjoy speaking with him and 303 00:15:22,550 --> 00:15:19,930 he has been investigating UFOs and the 304 00:15:25,190 --> 00:15:22,560 paranormal all the way back since 1986 305 00:15:29,940 --> 00:15:25,200 he's written several books 306 00:15:34,650 --> 00:15:29,950 I think 24 books and over 100 articles 307 00:15:37,230 --> 00:15:34,660 on UFO in paranormal and again I just 308 00:15:39,950 --> 00:15:37,240 always enjoy speaking with him and 309 00:15:43,980 --> 00:15:39,960 welcome to the show Preston 310 00:15:47,130 --> 00:15:43,990 hey thanks brother Leon alright there 311 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:47,140 you are I'm seeing you I'm seeing you 312 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:49,570 but I'm not seeing you on the I don't 313 00:15:56,310 --> 00:15:50,890 know what's going on with Skype tonight 314 00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:56,320 but it's not it's not not behaving it's 315 00:16:01,530 --> 00:15:58,410 not behaving let me just see if I can 316 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:01,540 change there you are okay alright I'm 317 00:16:05,490 --> 00:16:03,010 going to do some adjustments on this end 318 00:16:08,610 --> 00:16:05,500 all right here you go we're gonna put 319 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:08,620 you on here you go so 320 00:16:13,980 --> 00:16:11,650 Preston for the person who has never 321 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:13,990 heard you on the show 322 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:15,970 why don't you give a quick background 323 00:16:20,910 --> 00:16:17,530 and what got you interested in the topic 324 00:16:24,210 --> 00:16:20,920 all that good stuff right yeah well I 325 00:16:26,460 --> 00:16:24,220 was really born in Illinois moved here 326 00:16:28,710 --> 00:16:26,470 to California with my family I've got my 327 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:28,720 brothers and sisters and I thought we 328 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:30,850 were all skeptical of UFOs it turns out 329 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:33,370 no some of them had seen UFOs and didn't 330 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:36,130 tell me I was very skeptical it wasn't 331 00:16:40,430 --> 00:16:37,690 until 1986 332 00:16:42,930 --> 00:16:40,440 November 17th I think it was exactly 333 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:42,940 there was a sighting over Alaska 334 00:16:48,810 --> 00:16:45,370 captain Ken tjuta Roshi it's a very 335 00:16:51,180 --> 00:16:48,820 famous case yeah and I thought wow this 336 00:16:51,750 --> 00:16:51,190 pilot is obviously lying or he's on 337 00:16:55,830 --> 00:16:51,760 drugs 338 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:55,840 I mean what is going on because the news 339 00:17:00,210 --> 00:16:57,130 just kind of laughed about it they were 340 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:00,220 very tongue-in-cheek and moved on but I 341 00:17:05,460 --> 00:17:01,930 remembered my brother had said he'd seen 342 00:17:06,900 --> 00:17:05,470 a UFO and I didn't believe him and I 343 00:17:09,420 --> 00:17:06,910 asked him about it and got a real shock 344 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:09,430 you know he had two friends with him he 345 00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:11,890 chased this metallic disc for several 346 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:15,130 miles in his car and I started asking 347 00:17:19,230 --> 00:17:17,650 people and found out that you know not 348 00:17:21,870 --> 00:17:19,240 only you know some of the people within 349 00:17:25,260 --> 00:17:21,880 my family my friends and my co-workers 350 00:17:27,900 --> 00:17:25,270 as well not only had sightings but 351 00:17:31,530 --> 00:17:27,910 missing time and you know face-to-face 352 00:17:33,660 --> 00:17:31,540 encounters with gray et's so yeah it hit 353 00:17:36,660 --> 00:17:33,670 home for me you know as far as I'm 354 00:17:39,900 --> 00:17:36,670 concerned it wasn't good news I was 355 00:17:42,330 --> 00:17:39,910 pretty upset about it really really 356 00:17:45,390 --> 00:17:42,340 that's up you know what I sometimes I 357 00:17:48,390 --> 00:17:45,400 hear kind of that reaction but some of 358 00:17:50,670 --> 00:17:48,400 some times mostly about someone that has 359 00:17:52,500 --> 00:17:50,680 their own sighting but not generally 360 00:17:55,310 --> 00:17:52,510 when they're listening to other peoples 361 00:17:59,550 --> 00:17:55,320 of count sorry are you saying this 362 00:18:01,290 --> 00:17:59,560 reaction of yours has to do more of like 363 00:18:02,910 --> 00:18:01,300 it was something that you didn't know 364 00:18:04,350 --> 00:18:02,920 about sort of like a secret out there 365 00:18:07,590 --> 00:18:04,360 and all of a sudden you know about it 366 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:07,600 and and well so why why was your 367 00:18:11,430 --> 00:18:09,250 reaction the way it was I guess what I'm 368 00:18:13,050 --> 00:18:11,440 looking for um I guess had a lot of 369 00:18:15,780 --> 00:18:13,060 anger because this wasn't taught in 370 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:15,790 schools and the people I thought you 371 00:18:22,050 --> 00:18:18,730 know loved me were lying essentially and 372 00:18:23,580 --> 00:18:22,060 I get it you know that I was vehemently 373 00:18:27,150 --> 00:18:23,590 sceptical I was taking all kinds of 374 00:18:30,360 --> 00:18:27,160 science classes in college and I was you 375 00:18:33,750 --> 00:18:30,370 know dug in in terms of you know UFOs 376 00:18:35,730 --> 00:18:33,760 not being real so it was a big 377 00:18:37,530 --> 00:18:35,740 adjustment for sure and finding out that 378 00:18:40,410 --> 00:18:37,540 our own government is using our own tax 379 00:18:44,190 --> 00:18:40,420 dollars to basically ridicule witnesses 380 00:18:48,150 --> 00:18:44,200 and cover-up events and you know cover 381 00:18:51,030 --> 00:18:48,160 up the truth really upset me so there 382 00:18:53,250 --> 00:18:51,040 yeah it was a knock good news and it was 383 00:18:55,020 --> 00:18:53,260 very interesting I became obsessed very 384 00:18:58,620 --> 00:18:55,030 quickly bought all the books I could 385 00:19:01,740 --> 00:18:58,630 magazines I subscribed to MUFON became a 386 00:19:03,870 --> 00:19:01,750 member or a field investigator 387 00:19:06,090 --> 00:19:03,880 I was tromping through the fields I was 388 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:06,100 gonna see if these things were real well 389 00:19:12,870 --> 00:19:09,970 and what what was your investigation 390 00:19:16,110 --> 00:19:12,880 like when you work for booth on MUFON 391 00:19:17,820 --> 00:19:16,120 did you work with MUFON did you have any 392 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:17,830 really interesting cases that you 393 00:19:25,020 --> 00:19:23,050 personally investigated oh yeah yeah I 394 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:25,030 mean right I work directly with new 395 00:19:31,070 --> 00:19:27,850 funds for a number of years early on and 396 00:19:34,550 --> 00:19:31,080 just kind of fed some cases to them and 397 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:34,560 mostly sightings and things like that 398 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:37,210 don't work so much with MUFON these days 399 00:19:42,090 --> 00:19:39,730 I'm still a field investigator and a 400 00:19:44,730 --> 00:19:42,100 member I support them I think there's a 401 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:44,740 lot of really good people in MUFON but 402 00:19:51,810 --> 00:19:48,010 like every UFO citizen UFO organization 403 00:19:54,780 --> 00:19:51,820 in the US there's problems with them I 404 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:54,790 mean this is what we saw with a pro who 405 00:19:59,100 --> 00:19:57,250 was was essentially spied on by the CIA 406 00:20:03,600 --> 00:19:59,110 the lawrence ins caught them doing it 407 00:20:07,140 --> 00:20:03,610 and what's the other one not a pro not 408 00:20:12,930 --> 00:20:07,150 qfo nightcap that of course fell apart 409 00:20:15,990 --> 00:20:12,940 due to infiltration so you know and move 410 00:20:17,940 --> 00:20:16,000 fun I love them but their membership is 411 00:20:19,860 --> 00:20:17,950 what a few thousand why isn't it a 412 00:20:22,260 --> 00:20:19,870 hundred thousand I don't understand this 413 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:22,270 that's always puzzled me too and it's 414 00:20:28,110 --> 00:20:24,850 not likely it's an expensive membership 415 00:20:33,150 --> 00:20:28,120 I've had a little few discussions with 416 00:20:35,370 --> 00:20:33,160 Jan Harrison about you know how he tries 417 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:35,380 to get you know members involved and now 418 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:35,770 I see 419 00:20:41,460 --> 00:20:39,130 they they have a new like MUFON TV show 420 00:20:42,890 --> 00:20:41,470 I watched part of it the other day you 421 00:20:44,790 --> 00:20:42,900 know maybe they're trying to get 422 00:20:47,090 --> 00:20:44,800 experimental and trying to figure out 423 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:47,100 ways to you know get more members 424 00:20:53,460 --> 00:20:49,450 involved but yeah it's it is it is 425 00:20:57,420 --> 00:20:53,470 surprisingly a low membership and yeah I 426 00:20:59,910 --> 00:20:57,430 know the controversy and there's some 427 00:21:03,030 --> 00:20:59,920 people that have just plain left because 428 00:21:05,010 --> 00:21:03,040 of it and I think you know when it 429 00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:05,020 whenever something like you mentioned 430 00:21:11,430 --> 00:21:08,320 whenever something like this can it can 431 00:21:13,050 --> 00:21:11,440 easily get out of hand in different ways 432 00:21:16,500 --> 00:21:13,060 you know the politics of it and the 433 00:21:19,050 --> 00:21:16,510 whole thing then when anytime when 434 00:21:22,590 --> 00:21:19,060 there's money involved things weird 435 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:22,600 things can happen to so I know they've 436 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:25,570 had their struggles well I like Jan I 437 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:27,490 met him you know when at the conference 438 00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:30,010 in Irvine when I spoke there and I'm 439 00:21:35,220 --> 00:21:32,320 hopeful this all continuing in a good 440 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:35,230 path but we have to remember that this 441 00:21:41,580 --> 00:21:38,170 is a real subject UFOs are real the 442 00:21:43,170 --> 00:21:41,590 evidence I think is conclusive really 443 00:21:46,020 --> 00:21:43,180 within the public arena if you're 444 00:21:46,500 --> 00:21:46,030 willing to search it out and there is a 445 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:46,510 cover-up 446 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:49,210 it's demonstrable so and it hasn't 447 00:21:54,930 --> 00:21:52,810 stopped yet right so so there's push and 448 00:21:56,610 --> 00:21:54,940 pull forces here that are making it's 449 00:22:00,330 --> 00:21:56,620 very difficult to move this subject 450 00:22:01,950 --> 00:22:00,340 forward right right let's see I think 451 00:22:04,140 --> 00:22:01,960 we're going into break right now so 452 00:22:05,700 --> 00:22:04,150 we're going to go into our first break I 453 00:22:09,300 --> 00:22:05,710 know there was a little bit of an issue 454 00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:09,310 over there at kgr radio and so hanging 455 00:22:21,430 --> 00:22:10,960 everyone we're going to be right back 456 00:22:24,770 --> 00:22:24,140 alright Martin we're clear sorry about 457 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:24,780 that man 458 00:22:29,390 --> 00:22:27,570 yeah that's right you know I had to 459 00:22:31,070 --> 00:22:29,400 break the signal when I heard that you 460 00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:31,080 guys were having feedback up if 461 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:33,120 something happened it came from my end 462 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:34,890 on the one of the measurements on this 463 00:22:40,190 --> 00:22:38,490 MOTU so all right that thing that pace 464 00:22:43,970 --> 00:22:40,200 equipment that I told you we hooked 465 00:22:46,390 --> 00:22:43,980 oh okay yeah so I just didn't have 466 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:46,400 apparently I didn't have one of the 467 00:22:52,700 --> 00:22:49,530 switches switched and he remotely came 468 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:52,710 in and fixed it and that is amazing part 469 00:22:56,360 --> 00:22:55,050 of this electronic stuff Wow 470 00:22:58,250 --> 00:22:56,370 all right well we're still live on 471 00:23:00,140 --> 00:22:58,260 YouTube how much time we got so the 472 00:23:01,460 --> 00:23:00,150 commercial rates three minutes Martin 473 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:01,470 three minutes all right 474 00:23:10,460 --> 00:23:06,810 okay Preston so we're going to get into 475 00:23:13,250 --> 00:23:10,470 your book because I find that really 476 00:23:16,820 --> 00:23:13,260 fascinating the school yard UFO 477 00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:16,830 encounters but first of all in your area 478 00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:19,110 what what part of California do you live 479 00:23:27,820 --> 00:23:24,240 in Southern California outside LA in 480 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:27,830 Reseda and what's the what's the fires 481 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:30,330 how are you dealing with that out there 482 00:23:35,810 --> 00:23:33,210 oh boy just a couple of weeks ago it was 483 00:23:38,930 --> 00:23:35,820 pretty scary I mean I had fires on both 484 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:38,940 sides of me I was in no danger but my 485 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:42,330 family my brother and sister-in-law were 486 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:46,610 just about getting ready to evacuate and 487 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:49,650 have other people who are directed the 488 00:23:55,970 --> 00:23:52,890 fires in Northern California so it's 489 00:23:59,420 --> 00:23:55,980 been horrendous yeah it's a big deal I 490 00:24:03,080 --> 00:23:59,430 lived here for a long time since 1971 491 00:24:05,420 --> 00:24:03,090 and wildfires are nothing new but not 492 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:05,430 like this I have to tell you it has they 493 00:24:11,450 --> 00:24:08,010 don't race across and just demolish a 494 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:11,460 thousand homes in minutes that's right I 495 00:24:15,950 --> 00:24:13,890 know we're doing a show about UFOs but I 496 00:24:18,260 --> 00:24:15,960 do want to talk a little bit about this 497 00:24:19,910 --> 00:24:18,270 because I I think it's actually you know 498 00:24:25,460 --> 00:24:19,920 scary and interesting at the same time 499 00:24:28,910 --> 00:24:25,470 but I went out in to California a few 500 00:24:31,310 --> 00:24:28,920 years ago visiting and I went up to you 501 00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:31,320 cemani and I couldn't believe what I saw 502 00:24:36,169 --> 00:24:32,640 with the beetle kill 503 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:36,179 that happens when there's a drought and 504 00:24:41,150 --> 00:24:39,450 the the trees can't produce enough SAP 505 00:24:43,730 --> 00:24:41,160 to protect themselves against the beetle 506 00:24:46,100 --> 00:24:43,740 and so the beetles and so the beetles 507 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:46,110 will kill these trees but I mean what a 508 00:24:49,850 --> 00:24:47,690 fire hazard 509 00:24:52,820 --> 00:24:49,860 Yosemite which is such a beautiful area 510 00:24:56,750 --> 00:24:52,830 what a fire has its M&T itself is and 511 00:24:59,930 --> 00:24:56,760 I'm surprised that doesn't torched you 512 00:25:00,740 --> 00:24:59,940 know it's just just so much ten what do 513 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:00,750 they call it tinder 514 00:25:06,020 --> 00:25:04,530 I'm just waiting to light there but I I 515 00:25:08,419 --> 00:25:06,030 don't know if it's gonna get any better 516 00:25:10,820 --> 00:25:08,429 in California I mean it's like there's 517 00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:10,830 not - it seems like there's most of this 518 00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:14,370 you know the wooded areas are have been 519 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:16,559 hit one way or another in the last few 520 00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:19,410 years pretty amazing yeah yeah there's 521 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:21,510 still a lot of forest out there thank 522 00:25:26,299 --> 00:25:24,690 God and I think at some point this has 523 00:25:27,950 --> 00:25:26,309 gotta stabilize if we work on our 524 00:25:33,130 --> 00:25:27,960 environment it's the number one message 525 00:25:38,330 --> 00:25:36,140 yeah I'd like that's one of the things I 526 00:25:40,669 --> 00:25:38,340 want to talk about because a you know a 527 00:25:43,580 --> 00:25:40,679 lot of these schoolyard encounters they 528 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:43,590 do have they do have messages like that 529 00:25:46,850 --> 00:25:45,090 we're about ready we're ready to go back 530 00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:46,860 when you arm up right I was just gonna 531 00:25:51,049 --> 00:25:49,049 say we're ready to go back on so yeah I 532 00:25:55,549 --> 00:25:51,059 hate to interrupt you guys I can always 533 00:25:56,990 --> 00:25:55,559 do that a minute what yeah okay Preston 534 00:25:59,419 --> 00:25:57,000 are you ready I'm ready 535 00:26:04,580 --> 00:25:59,429 all right Martin here we go in five four 536 00:26:07,250 --> 00:26:04,590 three two all right everyone welcome 537 00:26:09,260 --> 00:26:07,260 back this is Martin Willison my guest is 538 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:09,270 Preston Dennett and we're going to be 539 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:11,610 talking about schoolyard encounters and 540 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:14,450 that's where we're gonna start 541 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:18,210 Preston so what made you decide you are 542 00:26:23,180 --> 00:26:20,730 going to write this book about these 543 00:26:26,090 --> 00:26:23,190 encounters which by the way is one of 544 00:26:29,990 --> 00:26:26,100 the most interesting aspects of this 545 00:26:33,770 --> 00:26:30,000 phenomena as far as I'm concerned yeah I 546 00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:33,780 kind of slipped into it by chance um 547 00:26:39,110 --> 00:26:36,510 coincidentally one of my early cases my 548 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:39,120 first humanoid case actually took place 549 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:41,330 right in front of an elementary school 550 00:26:46,490 --> 00:26:44,010 so I started running into these cases 551 00:26:48,470 --> 00:26:46,500 early on and I've core 552 00:26:51,620 --> 00:26:48,480 when the rural Zimbabwe case occurred 553 00:26:55,190 --> 00:26:51,630 I'm like wow this is really unusual I 554 00:26:56,750 --> 00:26:55,200 thought I thought it was unusual and but 555 00:26:58,910 --> 00:26:56,760 I kept hearing more cases I ran into 556 00:27:02,690 --> 00:26:58,920 another of my own down in Hawthorne at a 557 00:27:04,190 --> 00:27:02,700 Catholic school and thought gosh I 558 00:27:07,010 --> 00:27:04,200 wonder if this is a thing because I've 559 00:27:09,860 --> 00:27:07,020 been looking into various areas that I 560 00:27:12,950 --> 00:27:09,870 call UFO tractors sort of like mine's 561 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:12,960 you know metal mines iron mines copper 562 00:27:18,620 --> 00:27:16,650 mines attract to FOS so do rocket 563 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:18,630 launches anything to do with rockets 564 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:22,290 nuclear stations and I thought I wonder 565 00:27:26,770 --> 00:27:24,810 if schools are a thing because I had 566 00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:26,780 heard of of course the West all 567 00:27:33,950 --> 00:27:29,760 Melbourne case at West Hall High School 568 00:27:36,980 --> 00:27:33,960 or some 200 kids saw a UFO land 300 and 569 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:36,990 I thought gosh no isn't I think there's 570 00:27:42,710 --> 00:27:39,450 another I remembered one up in Wales 571 00:27:45,490 --> 00:27:42,720 where the they saw humanoids I did not 572 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:45,500 know about the opa-locka crestview case 573 00:27:51,230 --> 00:27:48,210 so turn and put these are all the most 574 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:51,240 more famous cases and so I start decided 575 00:27:56,420 --> 00:27:52,770 to dig in a little bit because I had 576 00:27:58,490 --> 00:27:56,430 read this case where a student had said 577 00:28:02,690 --> 00:27:58,500 that he had Gray's walk into his 578 00:28:06,530 --> 00:28:02,700 classroom during class and yeah time 579 00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:06,540 stopped and these grades were just going 580 00:28:10,820 --> 00:28:08,880 up and down the aisles no one was moving 581 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:10,830 and at this point he couldn't move he 582 00:28:13,070 --> 00:28:12,570 couldn't talk and suddenly they were 583 00:28:14,510 --> 00:28:13,080 gone 584 00:28:16,060 --> 00:28:14,520 times speeded up again and everyone 585 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:16,070 acted like nothing had happened I 586 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:19,530 thought oh my god you know arts are you 587 00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:22,650 know schools being targeted by UFOs so I 588 00:28:28,250 --> 00:28:25,520 did a sort of a survey of the literature 589 00:28:32,540 --> 00:28:28,260 starting with the books in my library 590 00:28:34,550 --> 00:28:32,550 and magazines and UFO news clipping 591 00:28:37,970 --> 00:28:34,560 service I checked out MUFON in new Fork 592 00:28:40,370 --> 00:28:37,980 and other UFO databases and I have to 593 00:28:43,220 --> 00:28:40,380 tell you you know I got a real shock I'm 594 00:28:46,030 --> 00:28:43,230 having investigated UFOs or you know 595 00:28:49,220 --> 00:28:46,040 gosh 30 years now most of my life 596 00:28:52,070 --> 00:28:49,230 thought I was I knew pretty much what 597 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:52,080 was going on and this really threw me 598 00:28:55,730 --> 00:28:54,810 for a loop because I found over a 599 00:29:00,049 --> 00:28:55,740 hundred cases 600 00:29:02,599 --> 00:29:00,059 well pretty quickly that's amazing 601 00:29:03,289 --> 00:29:02,609 right all over the world stretching back 602 00:29:06,349 --> 00:29:03,299 gosh 603 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:06,359 the earliest one I found was 1853 it's 604 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:09,210 an outlier that's in Tennessee these 605 00:29:16,209 --> 00:29:12,570 UFOs hovered over college but really 606 00:29:19,519 --> 00:29:16,219 starting in 1950 and onward from that 607 00:29:23,419 --> 00:29:19,529 year at least two real three 608 00:29:25,599 --> 00:29:23,429 high-quality cases per year all the way 609 00:29:29,509 --> 00:29:25,609 up pretty much to the present day I 610 00:29:32,919 --> 00:29:29,519 think I don't know maybe three or four 611 00:29:35,450 --> 00:29:32,929 months ago the topic of school yard 612 00:29:37,579 --> 00:29:35,460 encounters came up and I believe I said 613 00:29:41,060 --> 00:29:37,589 yeah I think there's at least four or 614 00:29:43,269 --> 00:29:41,070 five of them I had no idea if you had 615 00:29:45,649 --> 00:29:43,279 told me there was a hundred I you know 616 00:29:48,289 --> 00:29:45,659 at that time I would have liked 617 00:29:50,299 --> 00:29:48,299 I wouldn't say I wouldn't believe you 618 00:29:52,310 --> 00:29:50,309 but I mean it's just I can't believe 619 00:29:55,639 --> 00:29:52,320 there's that many it's that's just 620 00:29:58,129 --> 00:29:55,649 amazing and you know we know of like you 621 00:30:00,409 --> 00:29:58,139 just mentioned to that you know I'm very 622 00:30:03,619 --> 00:30:00,419 familiar with and by the way on December 623 00:30:07,159 --> 00:30:03,629 10th we have Ryan Shane is going to be 624 00:30:11,349 --> 00:30:07,169 on about the Westall encounter 625 00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:11,359 December 10th so but the aerial school 626 00:30:18,919 --> 00:30:16,529 to me is one of the the major ones just 627 00:30:21,289 --> 00:30:18,929 because of well there's so many reasons 628 00:30:24,499 --> 00:30:21,299 why you know the 65 or whatever was 629 00:30:27,079 --> 00:30:24,509 schoolchildren and so many of them you 630 00:30:30,889 --> 00:30:27,089 know saw the beings and speaking of 631 00:30:33,589 --> 00:30:30,899 beings how many of these encounters I 632 00:30:35,899 --> 00:30:33,599 don't know if you can try to make a stab 633 00:30:40,339 --> 00:30:35,909 at how many of them had actual being 634 00:30:42,169 --> 00:30:40,349 sightings and all those hundred yeah ten 635 00:30:45,049 --> 00:30:42,179 percent at least actually what I found 636 00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:45,059 was it's surprising 30 percent of the 637 00:30:52,009 --> 00:30:48,529 cases involved landings and/or humanoids 638 00:30:53,450 --> 00:30:52,019 so what we're dealing with are not first 639 00:30:56,899 --> 00:30:53,460 of all it's not a coincidence this is 640 00:30:59,839 --> 00:30:56,909 not like random flybys your average kind 641 00:31:02,239 --> 00:30:59,849 of sighting is about four thousand feet 642 00:31:05,749 --> 00:31:02,249 up an anomalous light at night very 643 00:31:06,589 --> 00:31:05,759 brief and it darts away right that's not 644 00:31:08,180 --> 00:31:06,599 what's happening here 645 00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:08,190 these cases are fundamentally different 646 00:31:12,510 --> 00:31:10,559 and several really profound and 647 00:31:14,669 --> 00:31:12,520 significant ways I think 648 00:31:17,220 --> 00:31:14,679 first of all being that these are very 649 00:31:19,650 --> 00:31:17,230 low-level sightings I would say that a 650 00:31:23,340 --> 00:31:19,660 thousand feet would be on the higher end 651 00:31:28,049 --> 00:31:23,350 or these objects they come down to 652 00:31:31,290 --> 00:31:28,059 usually 200 feet 150 and yeah like I 653 00:31:32,940 --> 00:31:31,300 said in some cases landing these objects 654 00:31:35,460 --> 00:31:32,950 are directly targeting the schools 655 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:35,470 they're appearing from say the horizon 656 00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:37,330 are way up in the sky and come right 657 00:31:39,690 --> 00:31:38,080 over the school 658 00:31:42,630 --> 00:31:39,700 perhaps circling around it but usually 659 00:31:44,730 --> 00:31:42,640 stopping right over it or landing next 660 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:44,740 to it usually behind the school in a 661 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:47,770 grove of trees and they do land what's 662 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:50,170 also unusual about these cases is they 663 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:54,130 occur during daytime which you know most 664 00:31:59,700 --> 00:31:56,730 sightings are at night so this is a 665 00:32:03,690 --> 00:31:59,710 significant difference and also removes 666 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:03,700 the possibility of misperception third 667 00:32:09,150 --> 00:32:06,970 another things they last a long time you 668 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:09,160 know 10 minutes would be sort of the 669 00:32:14,790 --> 00:32:12,370 shorter end 20 minutes 30 minutes an 670 00:32:17,220 --> 00:32:14,800 hour two hours a couple of these cases 671 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:17,230 that go occur over a period of days or 672 00:32:25,020 --> 00:32:20,650 even a week well of repeated visits yeah 673 00:32:26,730 --> 00:32:25,030 not at all unusual also unusual is the 674 00:32:28,260 --> 00:32:26,740 fact that we're not dealing with you 675 00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:28,270 know your average amount of four to 676 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:32,110 seven witnesses we are dealing with an 677 00:32:39,270 --> 00:32:35,650 average of 30 witnesses per case for you 678 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:39,280 know in many cases 40 50 100 200 400 679 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:43,330 witnesses well not not just students by 680 00:32:48,660 --> 00:32:46,170 the way teachers in about half the cases 681 00:32:51,570 --> 00:32:48,670 there's often a governmental response 682 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:51,580 there's a you know military or state 683 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:55,690 government police there's also a wave of 684 00:32:59,130 --> 00:32:57,130 publicity usually that follows these 685 00:33:01,620 --> 00:32:59,140 sightings that they generally do make 686 00:33:04,590 --> 00:33:01,630 the local newspapers sometimes 687 00:33:07,770 --> 00:33:04,600 international but yeah something crazy 688 00:33:09,980 --> 00:33:07,780 is definitely going on with these types 689 00:33:13,590 --> 00:33:09,990 of cases and one more quick thing is 690 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:13,600 half half of the cases are elementary 691 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:17,650 schools huh yeah we talked it just for a 692 00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:19,890 couple minutes before the show and I was 693 00:33:25,409 --> 00:33:22,510 saying to you that I think one of the 694 00:33:25,830 --> 00:33:25,419 reasons these sightings are happening is 695 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:25,840 because 696 00:33:30,180 --> 00:33:28,090 kids are very impressionable when you're 697 00:33:32,220 --> 00:33:30,190 going back to elementary schools you 698 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:32,230 know that even makes the case even a 699 00:33:38,970 --> 00:33:36,850 little stronger and how many of these 700 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:38,980 cases are you aware of where they're 701 00:33:42,510 --> 00:33:40,330 actually the kids are actually outside 702 00:33:45,380 --> 00:33:42,520 like on the playground or something like 703 00:33:49,710 --> 00:33:45,390 that is there a good percentage of that 704 00:33:53,789 --> 00:33:49,720 yeah ninety really really really most of 705 00:33:56,269 --> 00:33:53,799 them yeah and what we do see is that 706 00:33:58,980 --> 00:33:56,279 these things show up during recess it's 707 00:34:01,260 --> 00:33:58,990 seems you know to be happening so 708 00:34:03,180 --> 00:34:01,270 consistently that I just can't imagine 709 00:34:04,470 --> 00:34:03,190 this is a coincidence there are a number 710 00:34:06,330 --> 00:34:04,480 of cases where kids are in their 711 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:06,340 classroom these objects hover right 712 00:34:11,089 --> 00:34:08,530 outside the school hole and cause you 713 00:34:13,859 --> 00:34:11,099 know classroom chaos to say the least 714 00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:13,869 but most of the cases yeah the kids are 715 00:34:18,750 --> 00:34:15,760 on the playground it's usually you know 716 00:34:21,659 --> 00:34:18,760 early morning recess lunch time or 717 00:34:24,899 --> 00:34:21,669 school's just been let out number of 718 00:34:26,930 --> 00:34:24,909 cases just like that well so yeah I 719 00:34:29,339 --> 00:34:26,940 think it's intentional and these ETS are 720 00:34:31,950 --> 00:34:29,349 because what we often you know I do 721 00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:31,960 believe we're dealing with ETS just put 722 00:34:36,869 --> 00:34:33,609 that out there extraterrestrials in the 723 00:34:39,060 --> 00:34:36,879 classic sense i think that there's 724 00:34:41,460 --> 00:34:39,070 casing the joint you know what i mean 725 00:34:44,010 --> 00:34:41,470 they're scouting the area out prior to 726 00:34:46,409 --> 00:34:44,020 this because often in these cases there 727 00:34:48,359 --> 00:34:46,419 are sightings before the event and after 728 00:34:53,070 --> 00:34:48,369 that was certainly true in the ariel 729 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:53,080 case so are you saying before the actual 730 00:34:56,669 --> 00:34:55,210 event of the encounter if there's 731 00:34:57,300 --> 00:34:56,679 sightings after them for is that what 732 00:34:59,310 --> 00:34:57,310 you mean by that 733 00:35:00,660 --> 00:34:59,320 yeah particularly the case of the 734 00:35:03,420 --> 00:35:00,670 landings mm-hmm 735 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:03,430 what we see is in the cases where the 736 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:05,770 UFOs are landing next to schools the day 737 00:35:10,109 --> 00:35:08,530 before that will often be sightings and 738 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:10,119 after that for that matter 739 00:35:15,390 --> 00:35:13,450 yeah not always but certainly it is a 740 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:15,400 pattern so it is almost like they're 741 00:35:22,020 --> 00:35:19,690 scouting it out in a way and yeah and I 742 00:35:24,170 --> 00:35:22,030 want to go over some of the cases but 743 00:35:26,910 --> 00:35:24,180 you mentioned some time the military 744 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:26,920 gets involved can you talk about any of 745 00:35:31,410 --> 00:35:28,890 the cases where that that is the case 746 00:35:35,220 --> 00:35:31,420 yeah I think probably the one that comes 747 00:35:37,950 --> 00:35:35,230 to mind would be the Marysville Ohio the 748 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:37,960 Jerome elementary school I have the date 749 00:35:44,460 --> 00:35:39,850 for that summer around here 750 00:35:48,180 --> 00:35:44,470 yeah 1954 October 22nd great case really 751 00:35:49,380 --> 00:35:48,190 amazing began when a bunch of children 752 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:49,390 about sixty children around the 753 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:52,090 playground and saw this sort of football 754 00:35:56,100 --> 00:35:54,370 shaped object with very bright lights 755 00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:56,110 perhaps portholes but probably lights 756 00:36:00,270 --> 00:35:58,330 because it was very bright came swooping 757 00:36:02,700 --> 00:36:00,280 down to about 200 feet and hovered there 758 00:36:03,930 --> 00:36:02,710 for a good 5 or 10 minutes before some 759 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:03,940 kids decided you know maybe we better 760 00:36:11,550 --> 00:36:06,730 call the teachers and called out the 761 00:36:13,260 --> 00:36:11,560 principal mr. Dimmick and he was amazed 762 00:36:14,430 --> 00:36:13,270 he's never seen anything like it 763 00:36:16,830 --> 00:36:14,440 he says it was so bright he had to 764 00:36:18,990 --> 00:36:16,840 shield his eyes he immediately called 765 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:19,000 for another teacher she ran out and 766 00:36:25,590 --> 00:36:21,370 didn't see it because this thing darts 767 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:25,600 away at full speed but sighting wasn't 768 00:36:29,340 --> 00:36:26,290 over yet 769 00:36:31,710 --> 00:36:29,350 this point the sky fills with this sort 770 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:31,720 of cotton candy-like substance which we 771 00:36:37,980 --> 00:36:35,290 now know as angel hair it's relatively 772 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:37,990 rare I mean these I mean there's quite a 773 00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:40,090 number of cases but not a lot compared 774 00:36:44,010 --> 00:36:41,200 to the number of sightings that are out 775 00:36:47,220 --> 00:36:44,020 there and this is just sort of this 776 00:36:49,020 --> 00:36:47,230 weird spiderweb type substance and it 777 00:36:51,330 --> 00:36:49,030 was thick all over the playground it 778 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:51,340 targeted the school it was in my mind 779 00:36:55,470 --> 00:36:53,530 clearly a display of some kind done 780 00:36:57,930 --> 00:36:55,480 intentionally I don't think this is UFO 781 00:37:00,690 --> 00:36:57,940 exhaust or anything I think they put 782 00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:00,700 this out there for the kids I really do 783 00:37:05,550 --> 00:37:03,760 and I can tell you why but at any rate 784 00:37:07,110 --> 00:37:05,560 they scooped it up you know they brought 785 00:37:10,470 --> 00:37:07,120 some to the teachers the teachers fussed 786 00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:10,480 around with it they sent a sample to the 787 00:37:16,740 --> 00:37:14,110 local newspaper who sent to the sample 788 00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:16,750 to lock for an Air Force Base and they 789 00:37:22,140 --> 00:37:19,510 never heard back from them but but the 790 00:37:24,690 --> 00:37:22,150 Air Force did express interest in this 791 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:24,700 case particularly and seemed to express 792 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:26,530 interest in all the cases where there's 793 00:37:32,370 --> 00:37:28,810 perhaps photographs taken or moving 794 00:37:34,170 --> 00:37:32,380 films or another case just like this one 795 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:34,180 year later Whitsitt elementary school 796 00:37:40,290 --> 00:37:37,690 another or angel-hair fall case or the 797 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:40,300 Air Force showed up to interview people 798 00:37:48,660 --> 00:37:43,330 and tried to debunk the case but turns 799 00:37:51,420 --> 00:37:48,670 out the principal who saw this this is 800 00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:51,430 also also let's see what said elementary 801 00:37:55,650 --> 00:37:53,710 school he witnessed the whole 802 00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:55,660 turns out he was a world war two vet 803 00:38:00,720 --> 00:37:58,450 could blown like 30-some combat missions 804 00:38:03,299 --> 00:38:00,730 and new aircraft and was just not having 805 00:38:07,890 --> 00:38:03,309 what this Air Force Major was trying to 806 00:38:10,890 --> 00:38:07,900 do which was debunk the case hmm Wow 807 00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:10,900 so you talked about the angel hair no 808 00:38:15,420 --> 00:38:13,089 there was a case I can't remember 809 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:15,430 anything about it other than that it was 810 00:38:20,549 --> 00:38:18,010 found they found a bunch of it in the 811 00:38:23,940 --> 00:38:20,559 trees I know it was a woman witness and 812 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:23,950 has any of that ever been tested 813 00:38:29,549 --> 00:38:26,410 actually you mentioned that the Air 814 00:38:32,370 --> 00:38:29,559 Force never got back to now but has have 815 00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:32,380 people tested otherwise oh yeah 816 00:38:37,049 --> 00:38:34,480 certainly in other cases and in the 817 00:38:38,609 --> 00:38:37,059 Whitsett Elementary School case they did 818 00:38:42,150 --> 00:38:38,619 send a sample off to Burlington 819 00:38:43,859 --> 00:38:42,160 scientific labs who returned it saying 820 00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:43,869 they were not able to identify it as 821 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:45,760 other than possibly an organic substance 822 00:38:49,620 --> 00:38:47,170 and they thought it might be spiderwebs 823 00:38:51,390 --> 00:38:49,630 and recommended which it couldn't be 824 00:38:53,849 --> 00:38:51,400 because there was a I mean this was 825 00:38:55,950 --> 00:38:53,859 thick on the playground well at any rate 826 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:55,960 they did send it to a biologist and the 827 00:38:59,819 --> 00:38:57,970 biologist said flat-out no this is not 828 00:39:04,160 --> 00:38:59,829 spiderwebs no there's no evidence of 829 00:39:09,150 --> 00:39:04,170 spiders here the strands are way too 830 00:39:10,650 --> 00:39:09,160 even and yeah it does chemical analysis 831 00:39:13,349 --> 00:39:10,660 has shown you know I forget what the 832 00:39:15,539 --> 00:39:13,359 actual elements are in there but I 833 00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:15,549 remember boron is one of them which 834 00:39:21,779 --> 00:39:18,609 isn't a super common element but is 835 00:39:24,750 --> 00:39:21,789 something we use for nuclear shielding 836 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:24,760 how reactors I believe are hmm so so 837 00:39:27,500 --> 00:39:26,170 that kind of piqued my interest I'm like 838 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:27,510 I wonder if there's something to that 839 00:39:32,130 --> 00:39:30,250 but generally the substance dissolves 840 00:39:34,859 --> 00:39:32,140 very quickly it's extremely hard to 841 00:39:36,750 --> 00:39:34,869 gather samples of so there hasn't been a 842 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:36,760 whole lot of study of it but there has 843 00:39:41,910 --> 00:39:39,690 been some well now are there any other 844 00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:41,920 as far as you know are there any other 845 00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:44,710 trace evidence cases when it comes to 846 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:47,710 schoolyard sightings oh yeah there was a 847 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:50,170 case in South Africa Richmond High 848 00:39:55,980 --> 00:39:53,650 School where I believe it was Richmond 849 00:40:00,420 --> 00:39:55,990 where a UFO landed on the high school 850 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:00,430 tennis courts overnight the guy who got 851 00:40:04,829 --> 00:40:02,410 it with principal by coincidence 852 00:40:06,620 --> 00:40:04,839 actually lived next to school saw these 853 00:40:09,529 --> 00:40:06,630 lights outside 854 00:40:12,049 --> 00:40:09,539 window there was some security guards 855 00:40:14,450 --> 00:40:12,059 who saw it and I believe another police 856 00:40:16,309 --> 00:40:14,460 officer saw it so a number of witnesses 857 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:16,319 saw these strange lights and the next 858 00:40:19,999 --> 00:40:18,450 morning that they go to these tennis 859 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:20,009 courts where these lights were and they 860 00:40:24,559 --> 00:40:22,650 were tore up and they couldn't figure 861 00:40:28,370 --> 00:40:24,569 out how it was done because these they 862 00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:28,380 were locked up and secured fencing the 863 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:30,569 gates weren't disturbed those fences 864 00:40:35,380 --> 00:40:33,210 weren't damaged but the blue gum tree 865 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:35,390 next to the tennis courts was all burnt 866 00:40:40,249 --> 00:40:38,490 the floor of the tennis courts was tore 867 00:40:43,249 --> 00:40:40,259 up all over the place and they found 868 00:40:46,180 --> 00:40:43,259 some of the tar several hundred yards 869 00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:46,190 away on a mountainside little hillside 870 00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:49,710 so that was curious yeah they have no 871 00:40:53,630 --> 00:40:51,599 idea what exactly happened in that case 872 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:53,640 but that's one of a number of landing 873 00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:55,890 trace cases I know the Westall case had 874 00:41:00,980 --> 00:40:59,119 some pretty significant landing traces 875 00:41:04,220 --> 00:41:00,990 there's a number of cases with 876 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:04,230 physiological reactions as well so yeah 877 00:41:08,539 --> 00:41:06,450 and uh there was let's see the Moline 878 00:41:12,170 --> 00:41:08,549 Illinois case Sacred Heart Elementary 879 00:41:14,210 --> 00:41:12,180 School forty children and three nuns saw 880 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:14,220 this UFO hovering over there was a 881 00:41:20,180 --> 00:41:17,130 police officer who had a movie camera 882 00:41:22,430 --> 00:41:20,190 and was able to take footage of it I saw 883 00:41:26,299 --> 00:41:22,440 the footage it's not great by today's 884 00:41:28,970 --> 00:41:26,309 standards but it's really in my mind 885 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:28,980 great evidence because we have so many 886 00:41:35,180 --> 00:41:31,410 witnesses supporting this we know it's 887 00:41:37,249 --> 00:41:35,190 not a hoax and certainly the Air Force 888 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:37,259 showed a lot of interest in it and their 889 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:39,690 guy who took the footage the police 890 00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:41,130 officer was actually visited by 891 00:41:47,359 --> 00:41:43,440 so-called men in black who refused to 892 00:41:48,799 --> 00:41:47,369 identify themselves right perhaps the 893 00:41:53,029 --> 00:41:48,809 government type is opposed to the sort 894 00:41:54,829 --> 00:41:53,039 of weirder alien type there's but some 895 00:41:57,620 --> 00:41:54,839 you know government government officials 896 00:42:00,170 --> 00:41:57,630 from some unnamed agency who expressed a 897 00:42:02,990 --> 00:42:00,180 lot of interest in his film and wanted 898 00:42:08,569 --> 00:42:03,000 to see it I was just looking over the 899 00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:08,579 list and there is I mean I've never 900 00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:11,609 heard of any of these so you mentioned 901 00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:15,359 in your research that you you went in to 902 00:42:19,660 --> 00:42:17,250 say you're a books and then your 903 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:19,670 articles and then 904 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:21,050 and you mentioned something about 905 00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:24,290 newspaper clips I mean it must be so 906 00:42:29,020 --> 00:42:27,710 hard to to find these I mean or can 907 00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:29,030 someone actually find a lot of these 908 00:42:34,330 --> 00:42:31,730 through the internet 909 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:34,340 I cast a pretty wide net you know I've 910 00:42:39,370 --> 00:42:36,170 got a pretty big library I subscribe to 911 00:42:42,130 --> 00:42:39,380 the UFO news clipping service before you 912 00:42:43,930 --> 00:42:42,140 know there was internet mm-hmm and I 913 00:42:46,990 --> 00:42:43,940 found some really wonderful dead 914 00:42:49,690 --> 00:42:47,000 databases I tell you MUFON and new Fork 915 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:49,700 national UFO Reporting Center I had a 916 00:42:59,650 --> 00:42:56,290 lot of information afro queue foes NICAP 917 00:43:02,200 --> 00:42:59,660 lots of the magazines yeah I did cast a 918 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:02,210 wide net I traced some of the cases 919 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:04,130 myself you know I was able to talk to 920 00:43:13,060 --> 00:43:08,770 witnesses firsthand so yeah it was 921 00:43:15,850 --> 00:43:13,070 definitely a real research project for 922 00:43:17,740 --> 00:43:15,860 sure but boy when I found one of these 923 00:43:20,620 --> 00:43:17,750 cases I'm like wow here's this here's 924 00:43:22,810 --> 00:43:20,630 this pattern again exerting itself where 925 00:43:26,110 --> 00:43:22,820 all this UFO shows up at recess and 926 00:43:27,670 --> 00:43:26,120 these are displays clearly these UFOs 927 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:27,680 are showing themselves off on purpose 928 00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:30,170 it's a sort of UFO behavior that's not 929 00:43:34,900 --> 00:43:32,720 super common but turns up regularly and 930 00:43:36,930 --> 00:43:34,910 that's what they're doing in these cases 931 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:36,940 for sure mm-hmm 932 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:41,450 let's let's talk about we'll get into 933 00:43:45,610 --> 00:43:43,130 the different cases the unknown cases 934 00:43:49,390 --> 00:43:45,620 that I'm interested in but let's talk 935 00:43:51,190 --> 00:43:49,400 about earlier you said something along 936 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:51,200 the lines of you know the environment 937 00:43:58,270 --> 00:43:55,130 the message are there a lot of cases 938 00:44:01,300 --> 00:43:58,280 where people actually you know children 939 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:01,310 are mentioning you know that they either 940 00:44:08,350 --> 00:44:03,770 had a vision or they felt like they were 941 00:44:11,890 --> 00:44:08,360 communicated with and and if so you know 942 00:44:13,650 --> 00:44:11,900 what kind of percentage of that is what 943 00:44:18,270 --> 00:44:13,660 we've heard in the past about 944 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:18,280 environmental you know related right now 945 00:44:23,620 --> 00:44:20,450 unfortunately there aren't a lot of 946 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:23,630 direct communication cases there's a 947 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:26,330 smattering of them the rural Zimbabwe 948 00:44:31,450 --> 00:44:28,970 case is really the ultimate case of this 949 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:31,460 kind which has all the elements 950 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:33,050 including you know LAN 951 00:44:40,930 --> 00:44:36,530 humanoids multiple witnesses no teachers 952 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:40,940 saw that 101 one has come up when I was 953 00:44:48,330 --> 00:44:45,650 speaking at James Fox out in Phoenix he 954 00:44:51,580 --> 00:44:48,340 told me that there was one teacher that 955 00:44:54,670 --> 00:44:51,590 admitted to him that she actually saw it 956 00:44:56,050 --> 00:44:54,680 and she kept quiet about it so Wow so he 957 00:44:57,460 --> 00:44:56,060 did get an interview with her it's gonna 958 00:44:59,860 --> 00:44:57,470 be in his film when it comes out 959 00:45:02,650 --> 00:44:59,870 whenever that is it hopefully it'll be 960 00:45:04,930 --> 00:45:02,660 soon but yeah that'll be interesting to 961 00:45:07,030 --> 00:45:04,940 hear her side of it yeah but most of 962 00:45:09,730 --> 00:45:07,040 them know don't have messages it's 963 00:45:11,230 --> 00:45:09,740 certainly the most common message I hear 964 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:11,240 when someone's taken on board a craft 965 00:45:15,420 --> 00:45:13,490 regardless of the date of their 966 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:15,430 encounter or the type of Viti they're 967 00:45:21,130 --> 00:45:18,530 interacting with that's the number one 968 00:45:23,980 --> 00:45:21,140 message people are given and it was 969 00:45:25,780 --> 00:45:23,990 there in the rose and bible case there's 970 00:45:28,750 --> 00:45:25,790 only a couple of other cases where 971 00:45:33,460 --> 00:45:28,760 people got any message at all so that is 972 00:45:35,770 --> 00:45:33,470 actually really rare no yeah I was I was 973 00:45:39,310 --> 00:45:35,780 hoping there would be more those because 974 00:45:43,030 --> 00:45:39,320 it I just find it really really an added 975 00:45:45,940 --> 00:45:43,040 you know amazing element to the whole 976 00:45:50,170 --> 00:45:45,950 situation and you mentioned a couple 977 00:45:53,830 --> 00:45:50,180 times there's principals how often would 978 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:53,840 you say our faculty involved and 979 00:45:59,800 --> 00:45:56,210 actually you know seeing these things is 980 00:46:03,070 --> 00:45:59,810 it is it rare or is that you know half 981 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:03,080 and half or what is it it's about half 982 00:46:06,850 --> 00:46:04,690 you know it's hard to say for sure 983 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:06,860 because a lot of these cases aren't 984 00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:09,410 really thoroughly investigated but and 985 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:12,110 I'm just astonished at how many cases 986 00:46:16,990 --> 00:46:13,930 there are where there's elementary-aged 987 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:17,000 witnesses who see this stuff and there 988 00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:19,130 are no teachers well are admitting it at 989 00:46:24,340 --> 00:46:22,250 least hmm so what was like the Ruis and 990 00:46:27,220 --> 00:46:24,350 bible case well found out there's a 991 00:46:30,190 --> 00:46:27,230 teacher there just now I think that 992 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:30,200 we're seeing that's probably more likely 993 00:46:35,290 --> 00:46:31,970 the case that a lot of these teachers 994 00:46:38,070 --> 00:46:35,300 are just not gonna talk about it mm-hm 995 00:46:40,900 --> 00:46:38,080 whereas students you know children are 996 00:46:43,570 --> 00:46:40,910 unencumbered by society and 997 00:46:45,250 --> 00:46:43,580 preconceptions which I think actually 998 00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:45,260 makes them great witnesses in a lot of 999 00:46:49,809 --> 00:46:46,880 ways 1000 00:46:52,420 --> 00:46:49,819 they're often marginalized unfortunately 1001 00:46:55,870 --> 00:46:52,430 in terms of being UFO witnesses or 1002 00:46:57,279 --> 00:46:55,880 really witnesses in any event there's 1003 00:47:01,329 --> 00:46:57,289 that old adage children should be seen 1004 00:47:05,529 --> 00:47:01,339 and not heard and that was true back 1005 00:47:08,190 --> 00:47:05,539 then you know that it is now but my 1006 00:47:12,130 --> 00:47:08,200 phone's ringing sorry about that but 1007 00:47:14,650 --> 00:47:12,140 yeah I think that uh this is actually a 1008 00:47:16,349 --> 00:47:14,660 lot more common and teachers see them 1009 00:47:20,049 --> 00:47:16,359 probably at least half the cases 1010 00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:20,059 probably more but there's a bunch of 1011 00:47:25,089 --> 00:47:22,609 cases there where it's just the kids one 1012 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:25,099 of the things I thought was really made 1013 00:47:31,269 --> 00:47:27,410 that case a little extra credible about 1014 00:47:35,260 --> 00:47:31,279 the aerial school is when I spoke to 1015 00:47:38,650 --> 00:47:35,270 Salma Hasidic she said that the term UFO 1016 00:47:40,569 --> 00:47:38,660 or anything like that had never she'd 1017 00:47:44,109 --> 00:47:40,579 never known about you know they're kind 1018 00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:44,119 of remote and so that wasn't something 1019 00:47:49,779 --> 00:47:46,640 that she would have ever conceived or 1020 00:47:52,690 --> 00:47:49,789 thought of on her own you know when she 1021 00:47:56,260 --> 00:47:52,700 was actually seeing this I think I heard 1022 00:47:59,529 --> 00:47:56,270 either Emily or her the two witnesses 1023 00:48:01,420 --> 00:47:59,539 I've spoken to one of them said they 1024 00:48:03,250 --> 00:48:01,430 thought it must be something like 1025 00:48:05,049 --> 00:48:03,260 military or something like that 1026 00:48:07,630 --> 00:48:05,059 she was just they were just trying to 1027 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:07,640 figure things out and are there any 1028 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:09,650 other cases that you're aware of where 1029 00:48:16,690 --> 00:48:12,770 it was sort of in a remote area or most 1030 00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:16,700 of these like you know in the suburbs or 1031 00:48:24,190 --> 00:48:21,440 urban areas oh gosh no I have never been 1032 00:48:26,289 --> 00:48:24,200 asked that before uh I think they're 1033 00:48:28,180 --> 00:48:26,299 mostly suburban I'm trying to think of 1034 00:48:31,180 --> 00:48:28,190 any really remote areas I mean this 1035 00:48:33,549 --> 00:48:31,190 occurs all over the world yeah so we're 1036 00:48:35,980 --> 00:48:33,559 seeing cases in England Canada France 1037 00:48:42,490 --> 00:48:35,990 all across South America Africa 1038 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:42,500 Australia you across Europe so most of 1039 00:48:48,609 --> 00:48:45,410 them are you know in town I guess you 1040 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:48,619 would say not rural areas and it's 1041 00:48:54,539 --> 00:48:50,450 puzzling because cases like the 1042 00:48:58,660 --> 00:48:54,549 opa-locka Florida case Crestview 1043 00:48:59,800 --> 00:48:58,670 Elementary School in 1966 had a number 1044 00:49:02,290 --> 00:48:59,810 of these objects hovering over 1045 00:49:04,060 --> 00:49:02,300 school one landed some 200 kids saw this 1046 00:49:07,390 --> 00:49:04,070 as well as the teachers there's an 1047 00:49:09,940 --> 00:49:07,400 airport like two miles away who claims 1048 00:49:11,850 --> 00:49:09,950 have seen nothing that's true at the 1049 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:11,860 West all case in Melbourne Australia 1050 00:49:17,770 --> 00:49:14,090 that's true with the case in New Zealand 1051 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:17,780 in 1970 where there were 400 students on 1052 00:49:23,620 --> 00:49:21,170 the playground two teachers it's a great 1053 00:49:25,660 --> 00:49:23,630 case the teachers were suddenly realized 1054 00:49:28,210 --> 00:49:25,670 something was up when the students 1055 00:49:30,550 --> 00:49:28,220 weren't playing all the sounds of their 1056 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:30,560 playing had stopped and they look up and 1057 00:49:33,940 --> 00:49:32,690 there's this giant thing approaching 1058 00:49:35,890 --> 00:49:33,950 their playground 1059 00:49:40,090 --> 00:49:35,900 it's huge gets bigger and bigger it's 1060 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:40,100 the sort of black disc and glistening 1061 00:49:44,740 --> 00:49:43,130 and glinting in the Sun there and gets 1062 00:49:48,610 --> 00:49:44,750 right over the school and covering a 1063 00:49:51,390 --> 00:49:48,620 third of the sky they said very large 1064 00:49:54,070 --> 00:49:51,400 hovered for about 10 minutes and 1065 00:49:56,290 --> 00:49:54,080 eventually moved off a little bit and it 1066 00:49:58,540 --> 00:49:56,300 took off straight up there's an airport 1067 00:50:03,490 --> 00:49:58,550 right next door they called him up of 1068 00:50:05,290 --> 00:50:03,500 course and nothing no one so yeah I 1069 00:50:06,460 --> 00:50:05,300 think what we're looking at here is the 1070 00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:06,470 situation where they're showing off 1071 00:50:12,010 --> 00:50:10,730 themselves to a select group mmm and and 1072 00:50:14,050 --> 00:50:12,020 you could be at the airport you're not 1073 00:50:18,190 --> 00:50:14,060 gonna see this unless they're all lying 1074 00:50:21,010 --> 00:50:18,200 which is entirely possible hmm but I 1075 00:50:22,420 --> 00:50:21,020 don't know because I keep seeing this in 1076 00:50:25,420 --> 00:50:22,430 case after case where it's just at 1077 00:50:26,890 --> 00:50:25,430 school who's seeing this I'm trying to 1078 00:50:30,130 --> 00:50:26,900 remember which case it is it might be 1079 00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:30,140 West all I believe that's the case where 1080 00:50:38,140 --> 00:50:34,640 the film was actually confiscated from a 1081 00:50:39,580 --> 00:50:38,150 teacher is that is that a common theme 1082 00:50:41,710 --> 00:50:39,590 we're going into a break here in just a 1083 00:50:45,370 --> 00:50:41,720 minute but is that a common thing as far 1084 00:50:48,070 --> 00:50:45,380 as you know no it's not super common and 1085 00:50:50,170 --> 00:50:48,080 and yes that is the Westall case which 1086 00:50:52,540 --> 00:50:50,180 was another one of the ultimate cases 1087 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:52,550 are six really big cases and that's one 1088 00:50:58,840 --> 00:50:55,490 of them where there was an active sort 1089 00:51:01,840 --> 00:50:58,850 of attempt to cover up events which was 1090 00:51:04,420 --> 00:51:01,850 pretty successful for a long time thanks 1091 00:51:08,550 --> 00:51:04,430 to the work of you know Shane right Ryan 1092 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:08,560 yeah it's come out now and there's so 1093 00:51:13,730 --> 00:51:12,290 but yeah that that doesn't happen a lot 1094 00:51:16,220 --> 00:51:13,740 because people don't really 1095 00:51:19,310 --> 00:51:16,230 have haven't taken a lot of pictures and 1096 00:51:21,670 --> 00:51:19,320 that those that have were well-received 1097 00:51:25,550 --> 00:51:21,680 and published in newspapers and so on I 1098 00:51:28,100 --> 00:51:25,560 believe I don't know a half hour ago I 1099 00:51:30,950 --> 00:51:28,110 mentioned that Shane Ryan was coming on 1100 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:30,960 on December 10th and I believe I called 1101 00:51:36,980 --> 00:51:34,890 him Ryan Shane I may have no but anyway 1102 00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:36,990 oh yeah he's a nice guy he did a lot of 1103 00:51:42,020 --> 00:51:39,510 really good work on that so we're gonna 1104 00:51:43,730 --> 00:51:42,030 go into the break now so everyone this 1105 00:51:45,500 --> 00:51:43,740 is a this is our real break 1106 00:51:49,180 --> 00:51:45,510 we're gonna go into that and we'll be 1107 00:51:53,540 --> 00:51:49,190 back right after these messages 1108 00:51:57,460 --> 00:51:53,550 all right everyone welcome back there's 1109 00:52:03,430 --> 00:51:57,470 an aiding aspects of the UFO phenomena 1110 00:52:06,590 --> 00:52:03,440 so Preston as far as where these 1111 00:52:09,050 --> 00:52:06,600 sightings are happening 1112 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:09,060 are you aware this is one place you 1113 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:11,130 don't hear a lot from and I'm just 1114 00:52:15,410 --> 00:52:13,290 wondering did you ever find out any 1115 00:52:21,620 --> 00:52:15,420 information of any of these happening in 1116 00:52:23,570 --> 00:52:21,630 China gosh I think so yeah I think there 1117 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:23,580 was a couple of Chinese cases yeah there 1118 00:52:29,300 --> 00:52:25,890 was now that I think of it up Paul dong 1119 00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:29,310 the Chinese UFO researcher he published 1120 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:31,680 a book called UFOs over China and I 1121 00:52:35,359 --> 00:52:33,330 found a couple of cases in there which 1122 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:35,369 were very significant there was one that 1123 00:52:40,250 --> 00:52:37,410 occurred over a major university three 1124 00:52:41,660 --> 00:52:40,260 students saw it caused quite enough for 1125 00:52:44,510 --> 00:52:41,670 her in a year after that all the UFO 1126 00:52:47,090 --> 00:52:44,520 groups started to farm in China which 1127 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:47,100 are very popular now oh so it seemed 1128 00:52:51,099 --> 00:52:49,290 that that's I think that there's an 1129 00:52:54,349 --> 00:52:51,109 agenda behind a lot of these sightings 1130 00:52:57,170 --> 00:52:54,359 in that it's to sort of wake people up 1131 00:53:00,320 --> 00:52:57,180 to their presence in a sort of sneaky 1132 00:53:04,070 --> 00:53:00,330 way not not underhanded but sort of a 1133 00:53:05,240 --> 00:53:04,080 quiet way or because people aren't going 1134 00:53:08,030 --> 00:53:05,250 to listen to children as they would to 1135 00:53:10,030 --> 00:53:08,040 adults you know there are large 1136 00:53:13,790 --> 00:53:10,040 gatherings of people all over the world 1137 00:53:16,940 --> 00:53:13,800 daily and yet we're not seeing UFOs 1138 00:53:18,710 --> 00:53:16,950 hovering over you know can't well there 1139 00:53:21,950 --> 00:53:18,720 are some of our concerts and you know 1140 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:21,960 sports gains but not a lot right 1141 00:53:26,700 --> 00:53:24,810 certainly no nowhere near the numbers we 1142 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:26,710 see here 1143 00:53:33,420 --> 00:53:29,490 so there's something to that for sure 1144 00:53:36,839 --> 00:53:33,430 yeah world worldwide yeah well I didn't 1145 00:53:38,370 --> 00:53:36,849 get any cases out of Russia which for 1146 00:53:41,789 --> 00:53:38,380 whatever reasons I wasn't able to find 1147 00:53:42,930 --> 00:53:41,799 any big database enough huh I guess but 1148 00:53:47,150 --> 00:53:42,940 I'm sure that there's more out there 1149 00:53:49,319 --> 00:53:47,160 yeah I mean I'm heading that way again I 1150 00:53:52,380 --> 00:53:49,329 don't know how many times it's been now 1151 00:53:55,230 --> 00:53:52,390 I'm gonna be there in a couple of weeks 1152 00:53:57,779 --> 00:53:55,240 for about a month I'll be doing this 1153 00:53:59,160 --> 00:53:57,789 show there may be one show I may not be 1154 00:54:00,420 --> 00:53:59,170 able to do but I'm gonna be doing doing 1155 00:54:02,999 --> 00:54:00,430 the show I'm gonna get up in the middle 1156 00:54:06,049 --> 00:54:03,009 of the night there and keep this show 1157 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:06,059 going at the same time if I can do it 1158 00:54:14,999 --> 00:54:10,450 but I've tried to connect with people in 1159 00:54:17,609 --> 00:54:15,009 Russia to talk about UFOs because 1160 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:17,619 they're you know I wore a hat and a 1161 00:54:21,930 --> 00:54:19,450 t-shirt over there and there are people 1162 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:21,940 actually like stopping me you know they 1163 00:54:26,999 --> 00:54:24,490 have an interest in UFOs and I know 1164 00:54:28,410 --> 00:54:27,009 where there was that one I think I had 1165 00:54:30,690 --> 00:54:28,420 Peter Robbins talk about it at one time 1166 00:54:31,890 --> 00:54:30,700 there one really great case in a park 1167 00:54:35,549 --> 00:54:31,900 where there was a lot of children 1168 00:54:39,630 --> 00:54:35,559 involved it was not a school schoolyard 1169 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:39,640 one but but so it's it's happening there 1170 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:41,170 there are people really interested in I 1171 00:54:48,870 --> 00:54:45,130 had one guy that was very involved in 1172 00:54:51,450 --> 00:54:48,880 the Ural Mountains and the Dyatlov pass 1173 00:54:53,460 --> 00:54:51,460 incident and investigator but he said 1174 00:54:56,099 --> 00:54:53,470 his English was just so bad he didn't 1175 00:55:01,620 --> 00:54:56,109 want to be on the show but well but it's 1176 00:55:06,359 --> 00:55:01,630 a anyway I digress here but going back 1177 00:55:08,249 --> 00:55:06,369 to school yards what about the cover-ups 1178 00:55:10,109 --> 00:55:08,259 you know you started you talked a little 1179 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:10,119 bit about that or is that it like a 1180 00:55:15,630 --> 00:55:13,690 common theme of these yeah and I think 1181 00:55:18,210 --> 00:55:15,640 it's depends on how you really sort of 1182 00:55:20,190 --> 00:55:18,220 define cover-up because what we see is 1183 00:55:22,380 --> 00:55:20,200 you know in a number of cases where kids 1184 00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:22,390 will see it and the teachers even will 1185 00:55:26,940 --> 00:55:24,609 see it but the teachers say don't talk 1186 00:55:29,519 --> 00:55:26,950 about it and they won't talk about it 1187 00:55:31,739 --> 00:55:29,529 and while the kids are buzzing and it's 1188 00:55:34,049 --> 00:55:31,749 you know the talk of the school for days 1189 00:55:36,029 --> 00:55:34,059 it goes no farther than that really 1190 00:55:39,509 --> 00:55:36,039 because the teachers will not talk about 1191 00:55:40,300 --> 00:55:39,519 it in my mind that's a cover-up to a 1192 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:40,310 certain extent 1193 00:55:44,380 --> 00:55:42,290 mm-hmm but you know more properly 1194 00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:44,390 speaking there are cases involving 1195 00:55:48,490 --> 00:55:45,920 government cover-up probably the 1196 00:55:52,180 --> 00:55:48,500 ultimate example would be the West Hall 1197 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:52,190 high school case in which some 300 1198 00:55:57,370 --> 00:55:55,490 students saw a UFO multiple UFOs one 1199 00:55:59,530 --> 00:55:57,380 landed right next to the school right in 1200 00:56:01,180 --> 00:55:59,540 the grove of trees there which is the 1201 00:56:02,950 --> 00:56:01,190 pattern we see and like I mentioned 1202 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:02,960 earlier always landing in a grove of 1203 00:56:09,130 --> 00:56:04,370 trees right next to the school it's very 1204 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:09,140 interesting to me and you know this was 1205 00:56:14,410 --> 00:56:12,170 very well observed people ran right up 1206 00:56:17,020 --> 00:56:14,420 to this object and were feet away from 1207 00:56:19,590 --> 00:56:17,030 it it lifted up there was landing traces 1208 00:56:22,030 --> 00:56:19,600 hundreds of kids saw the landing traces 1209 00:56:23,740 --> 00:56:22,040 but they ran back to the school by the 1210 00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:23,750 time everyone was back in the school the 1211 00:56:27,850 --> 00:56:25,250 army had already showed up the police 1212 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:27,860 were there the press was there and they 1213 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:29,690 called a special assembly which 1214 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:32,570 basically the headmaster said don't talk 1215 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:34,610 about this UFOs aren't real do you think 1216 00:56:39,490 --> 00:56:37,970 you saw UFO you're mistaken and at the 1217 00:56:41,950 --> 00:56:39,500 same time kids were being taken 1218 00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:41,960 individually into offices and questioned 1219 00:56:46,750 --> 00:56:43,910 by military personnel and told not to 1220 00:56:49,030 --> 00:56:46,760 talk about it wow I wasn't aware of that 1221 00:56:51,130 --> 00:56:49,040 part I'll have to talk to Shane about 1222 00:56:55,290 --> 00:56:51,140 that what would you say is the most 1223 00:56:58,840 --> 00:56:55,300 recent case of schoolyard sighting I 1224 00:57:01,060 --> 00:56:58,850 found a number of recent cases from 2019 1225 00:57:03,790 --> 00:57:01,070 where people really but most mostly 1226 00:57:05,380 --> 00:57:03,800 involving individual witnesses looking 1227 00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:05,390 at objects hovering very low over 1228 00:57:10,300 --> 00:57:08,000 schools which is kind I mean if I were 1229 00:57:12,250 --> 00:57:10,310 to just write every school yard case 1230 00:57:14,590 --> 00:57:12,260 like that it'd be a much bigger book 1231 00:57:18,430 --> 00:57:14,600 yeah because this book is really about 1232 00:57:22,180 --> 00:57:18,440 cases involving multiple witnesses in 1233 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:22,190 most instances not not always but yeah 1234 00:57:25,150 --> 00:57:23,570 there was about four or five cases 1235 00:57:27,910 --> 00:57:25,160 scattered throughout the u.s. that I 1236 00:57:30,940 --> 00:57:27,920 found four this year the most recent 1237 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:30,950 landing was actually a or Noah Amos yes 1238 00:57:36,580 --> 00:57:33,170 there was a really interesting sighting 1239 00:57:38,470 --> 00:57:36,590 in 2019 over Indonesia where the 1240 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:38,480 students were freaking out this was 1241 00:57:43,330 --> 00:57:40,010 during the day it was a very bright 1242 00:57:44,980 --> 00:57:43,340 object bright like the Sun right and the 1243 00:57:46,930 --> 00:57:44,990 teacher was actually able to film it on 1244 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:46,940 her cellphone but you couldn't see 1245 00:57:52,170 --> 00:57:49,850 anything it was just light so it was not 1246 00:57:53,890 --> 00:57:52,180 useful footage but again this was a very 1247 00:57:57,460 --> 00:57:53,900 low-level site 1248 00:58:01,900 --> 00:57:57,470 and what I found is these occur about 1249 00:58:04,630 --> 00:58:01,910 once per year starting in nineteen 1950 1250 00:58:06,430 --> 00:58:04,640 is really when it all began at this 1251 00:58:09,550 --> 00:58:06,440 little school called Preston in 1252 00:58:12,060 --> 00:58:09,560 Prestonsburg Kentucky by coincidence 1253 00:58:15,310 --> 00:58:12,070 Preston burg I'd laughed when I saw that 1254 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:15,320 were 35 students and the teacher saw 1255 00:58:20,020 --> 00:58:17,690 multiple objects which were very loud 1256 00:58:23,140 --> 00:58:20,030 and came buzzing over the school twice 1257 00:58:24,750 --> 00:58:23,150 and scared the Wits out of the student 1258 00:58:27,490 --> 00:58:24,760 they thought it was the end of the world 1259 00:58:29,290 --> 00:58:27,500 so this was another sort of active 1260 00:58:32,620 --> 00:58:29,300 display this is the pattern we see in 1261 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:32,630 each of these cases well so yeah about 1262 00:58:38,260 --> 00:58:36,770 about one per year and I think it's 1263 00:58:40,420 --> 00:58:38,270 probably a lot more than that I mean 1264 00:58:42,340 --> 00:58:40,430 I've got 100 some cases in the book I'm 1265 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:42,350 guessing it's closer to a thousand or 1266 00:58:46,870 --> 00:58:44,450 you know I wouldn't be surprised if it's 1267 00:58:50,530 --> 00:58:46,880 you know ten thousand in total 1268 00:58:54,580 --> 00:58:50,540 throughout time yeah now you mentioned a 1269 00:58:57,340 --> 00:58:54,590 case back in the 1800s are there other 1270 00:59:01,960 --> 00:58:57,350 ones back that far or was that just a 1271 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:01,970 really rare occurrence yeah burr at 1272 00:59:06,100 --> 00:59:04,130 college in Tennessee just a complete 1273 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:06,110 outlier I could not find a single case 1274 00:59:11,050 --> 00:59:08,450 prior to 1950 besides that one laughs 1275 00:59:13,690 --> 00:59:11,060 but that one fit the same pattern it was 1276 00:59:16,090 --> 00:59:13,700 early early morning professors saw the 1277 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:16,100 students saw it it hovered for two 1278 00:59:21,670 --> 00:59:19,490 objects bright they were pulsating one 1279 00:59:23,410 --> 00:59:21,680 would be brighten than one dim kind of 1280 00:59:26,590 --> 00:59:23,420 putting on this what appeared to be some 1281 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:26,600 sort of weird display for twenty thirty 1282 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:30,530 minutes and what year was that 1853 oh 1283 00:59:35,410 --> 00:59:31,610 wow 1284 00:59:38,350 --> 00:59:35,420 so 1853 think of it you know we didn't 1285 00:59:40,630 --> 00:59:38,360 even have the hydrogen balloons that 1286 00:59:42,550 --> 00:59:40,640 they used in the Civil War 1287 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:42,560 they weren't even you know I mean they 1288 00:59:47,650 --> 00:59:45,650 did have they've had hot-air balloons of 1289 00:59:51,310 --> 00:59:47,660 course since the 18th or even earlier 1290 00:59:53,410 --> 00:59:51,320 very early but not used too much but 1291 00:59:55,090 --> 00:59:53,420 still you know what would explain 1292 00:59:58,420 --> 00:59:55,100 something like that especially when it 1293 00:59:59,710 --> 00:59:58,430 comes to did you say lights yeah it's 1294 01:00:01,690 --> 00:59:59,720 interesting because there's pretty good 1295 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:01,700 observations that we can say that this 1296 01:00:05,860 --> 01:00:03,770 is not ball lightning or certainly any 1297 01:00:07,660 --> 01:00:05,870 aircraft they've tried to attribute it 1298 01:00:10,900 --> 01:00:07,670 to some astronomical or Atmos 1299 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:10,910 burek phenomena but it wasn't Northern 1300 01:00:16,839 --> 01:00:14,410 Lights I mean these were no defined 1301 01:00:19,539 --> 01:00:16,849 objects or lights that would pulsate on 1302 01:00:23,770 --> 01:00:19,549 and off or dim in brightness and then 1303 01:00:29,079 --> 01:00:23,780 become very brilliant for a long time in 1304 01:00:30,370 --> 01:00:29,089 place hmm 40 minutes that's it is quite 1305 01:00:32,470 --> 01:00:30,380 amazing yeah 1306 01:00:36,430 --> 01:00:32,480 you wouldn't think of a natural 1307 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:36,440 phenomena like ball lightning I don't 1308 01:00:41,500 --> 01:00:40,250 think it can last that long well it's 1309 01:00:43,930 --> 01:00:41,510 really because most of these cases 1310 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:43,940 involve metallic craft with portholes 1311 01:00:49,510 --> 01:00:46,730 that are just classic UFOs and like what 1312 01:00:52,710 --> 01:00:49,520 happened in Scotland 1952 at Elder Park 1313 01:00:55,539 --> 01:00:52,720 Elementary School school just let out 1314 01:00:59,319 --> 01:00:55,549 everyone's going across the front yard 1315 01:01:01,480 --> 01:00:59,329 their teachers are there Jenner's when 1316 01:01:03,579 --> 01:01:01,490 this giant circular shadow comes over 1317 01:01:06,579 --> 01:01:03,589 the playground places across it and 1318 01:01:09,819 --> 01:01:06,589 there's this huge sombrero shaped object 1319 01:01:12,250 --> 01:01:09,829 hovering right over the school about 300 1320 01:01:16,059 --> 01:01:12,260 feet up I think it was and stayed there 1321 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:16,069 for about five to ten minutes the main 1322 01:01:20,710 --> 01:01:18,770 witness she's described a sense of 1323 01:01:22,690 --> 01:01:20,720 timelessness she says I really couldn't 1324 01:01:23,829 --> 01:01:22,700 tell you how long it was and boy that 1325 01:01:25,390 --> 01:01:23,839 piqued my interest 1326 01:01:28,299 --> 01:01:25,400 because there like I said I've got a few 1327 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:28,309 times stopped cases and the sense of 1328 01:01:32,319 --> 01:01:30,770 timelessness turns up quite a bit that 1329 01:01:35,170 --> 01:01:32,329 turned up in the rural Zimbabwe case 1330 01:01:38,380 --> 01:01:35,180 some of the witness said that was it in 1331 01:01:41,890 --> 01:01:38,390 slow motion and this object just sort of 1332 01:01:45,220 --> 01:01:41,900 darts away over Glasgow and of course 1333 01:01:46,630 --> 01:01:45,230 made the newspapers and convinced a lot 1334 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:46,640 of parents who did not believe their 1335 01:01:53,500 --> 01:01:48,530 students suddenly came home their 1336 01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:53,510 children claimed they'd seen a UFO so 1337 01:01:59,740 --> 01:01:56,530 far that the two witnesses I talked to 1338 01:02:01,930 --> 01:01:59,750 from the aerial school incident both 1339 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:01,940 said that their parents supported them 1340 01:02:07,270 --> 01:02:04,130 or once that her mother really supported 1341 01:02:09,370 --> 01:02:07,280 her and you know that is important I can 1342 01:02:12,010 --> 01:02:09,380 imagine these you know poor kids have 1343 01:02:13,569 --> 01:02:12,020 have to live with you know this type of 1344 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:13,579 thing and not to get the support that's 1345 01:02:17,740 --> 01:02:15,410 that's really sad and I'm sure that does 1346 01:02:20,950 --> 01:02:17,750 happen a lot of us you know kids do have 1347 01:02:21,610 --> 01:02:20,960 an imagination but as a group you know I 1348 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:21,620 mean it 1349 01:02:26,530 --> 01:02:23,570 it's hard to explain when something 1350 01:02:28,900 --> 01:02:26,540 happens as a group I would definitely 1351 01:02:32,230 --> 01:02:28,910 tell ask parents to listen to their 1352 01:02:34,690 --> 01:02:32,240 students there's one case in 1975 from 1353 01:02:36,910 --> 01:02:34,700 Leonard Stringfield great researcher 1354 01:02:39,340 --> 01:02:36,920 mm-hmm who got a call from a very 1355 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:39,350 frantic father saying my son has gone 1356 01:02:43,810 --> 01:02:41,930 missing and Leonard's like why are you 1357 01:02:46,510 --> 01:02:43,820 calling me he says well my son called 1358 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:46,520 you yesterday to report a UFO which know 1359 01:02:48,340 --> 01:02:47,930 he had gotten the message but he wasn't 1360 01:02:50,890 --> 01:02:48,350 home 1361 01:02:53,350 --> 01:02:50,900 turns out this kid thought he was gonna 1362 01:02:56,170 --> 01:02:53,360 be abducted he left a note on the 1363 01:02:58,900 --> 01:02:56,180 kitchen table parents read it he had 1364 01:03:01,390 --> 01:02:58,910 seen a UFO follow him home from school 1365 01:03:04,330 --> 01:03:01,400 the day before well his parents did not 1366 01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:04,340 believe him when he said it's following 1367 01:03:09,340 --> 01:03:06,770 him it's going to take him so he emptied 1368 01:03:12,670 --> 01:03:09,350 his bank account to $500 he's a high 1369 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:12,680 school student and took off and the 1370 01:03:16,330 --> 01:03:14,210 police were of course called they found 1371 01:03:18,820 --> 01:03:16,340 him at Atlanta Airport this is in 1372 01:03:20,500 --> 01:03:18,830 Georgia and Leonard Stringfield got the 1373 01:03:22,810 --> 01:03:20,510 whole story out of him and turns out 1374 01:03:24,940 --> 01:03:22,820 that a year earlier he had seen a UFO 1375 01:03:26,890 --> 01:03:24,950 right over the playground at his high 1376 01:03:29,380 --> 01:03:26,900 school and felt like it was after him 1377 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:29,390 went home that night and had a bedroom 1378 01:03:34,870 --> 01:03:32,330 visitation by you know short bald 1379 01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:34,880 large-eyed humanoids who said don't 1380 01:03:42,220 --> 01:03:39,200 afraid but you need to come with us so 1381 01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:42,230 he lived with this for a year with all 1382 01:03:49,990 --> 01:03:46,720 any support wow that's interesting now 1383 01:03:52,030 --> 01:03:50,000 is your favorite case and when it comes 1384 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:52,040 to the schoolyard sightings is it one of 1385 01:03:58,240 --> 01:03:54,890 the well-known ones or is it something 1386 01:04:00,580 --> 01:03:58,250 that we haven't heard about um I would 1387 01:04:02,170 --> 01:04:00,590 say it's probably most people haven't 1388 01:04:04,930 --> 01:04:02,180 heard you know some of my favorite cases 1389 01:04:08,700 --> 01:04:04,940 for sure I'm gonna say the ocean Knoll 1390 01:04:13,780 --> 01:04:08,710 case on May 6 1967 is one of my favorite 1391 01:04:17,820 --> 01:04:13,790 this involves 16 elementary students 1392 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:17,830 very young and at least one teacher who 1393 01:04:25,270 --> 01:04:22,210 at school as it was beginning saw this 1394 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:25,280 craft come down over the school at 1395 01:04:29,710 --> 01:04:27,050 Harvard first several moments it had a 1396 01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:29,720 large picture window in front and 1397 01:04:34,870 --> 01:04:32,210 through it they could see two or three 1398 01:04:35,420 --> 01:04:34,880 humanoids this thing goes and it 1399 01:04:37,940 --> 01:04:35,430 apparent 1400 01:04:39,799 --> 01:04:37,950 lands next to the school it's in a dark 1401 01:04:41,569 --> 01:04:39,809 deep canyon right next to the school 1402 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:41,579 slate children ran through the fence 1403 01:04:47,030 --> 01:04:43,770 they couldn't see where it went went 1404 01:04:50,329 --> 01:04:47,040 back into the school and about an hour 1405 01:04:51,530 --> 01:04:50,339 later recess is out and all the kids are 1406 01:04:54,020 --> 01:04:51,540 on the playground with one of the 1407 01:04:56,839 --> 01:04:54,030 teachers and this thing rises up and 1408 01:04:58,400 --> 01:04:56,849 it's right at eye level and these kids 1409 01:05:01,190 --> 01:04:58,410 are looking at it one could that 1410 01:05:04,250 --> 01:05:01,200 binoculars and they said these were not 1411 01:05:05,210 --> 01:05:04,260 humans they couldn't describe him really 1412 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:05,220 well because they were just sort of 1413 01:05:09,380 --> 01:05:08,010 silhouettes but the faces looked a 1414 01:05:13,849 --> 01:05:09,390 little lumpy or look like they were 1415 01:05:17,390 --> 01:05:13,859 wearing masks and had uniforms on and it 1416 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:17,400 was just this metallic ship no not too 1417 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:19,650 large rises up about a hundred feet over 1418 01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:21,690 school take circles around it three 1419 01:05:26,660 --> 01:05:25,050 times and takes off and the teacher 1420 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:26,670 refused to discuss it and told the 1421 01:05:31,849 --> 01:05:29,010 students that they were not to discuss 1422 01:05:33,230 --> 01:05:31,859 it one of the main witnesses she comes 1423 01:05:36,410 --> 01:05:33,240 home from schools he's like seven years 1424 01:05:38,569 --> 01:05:36,420 old says daddy daddy this thing came 1425 01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:38,579 over the school and he freaks out he 1426 01:05:42,890 --> 01:05:40,170 gets the whole story out of her and goes 1427 01:05:46,579 --> 01:05:42,900 back to the school and the teacher will 1428 01:05:48,230 --> 01:05:46,589 not talk to him won't talk to him and he 1429 01:05:50,180 --> 01:05:48,240 tried to talk to the other students and 1430 01:05:52,099 --> 01:05:50,190 they were too scared or refused to talk 1431 01:05:55,010 --> 01:05:52,109 about he found several students who 1432 01:05:56,539 --> 01:05:55,020 would talk about it finally and got the 1433 01:05:58,549 --> 01:05:56,549 same story that he got from his daughter 1434 01:05:59,960 --> 01:05:58,559 like daddy night it was like two plates 1435 01:06:02,390 --> 01:05:59,970 stuck together she described the whole 1436 01:06:04,579 --> 01:06:02,400 thing took him a while to get the story 1437 01:06:08,030 --> 01:06:04,589 out of her and he tried to get you know 1438 01:06:09,829 --> 01:06:08,040 the police interested no the news wasn't 1439 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:09,839 interested finally he you know got some 1440 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:13,530 support I think was from new Fork so I 1441 01:06:16,990 --> 01:06:14,730 was able to find this report 1442 01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:17,000 you know the audio of the whole 1443 01:06:22,099 --> 01:06:20,130 interview online it was a great 1444 01:06:24,819 --> 01:06:22,109 interview and I don't think I don't 1445 01:06:28,490 --> 01:06:24,829 think it's ever been publicized before 1446 01:06:30,559 --> 01:06:28,500 well I wasn't that interesting and any 1447 01:06:34,309 --> 01:06:30,569 details that were really fascinating in 1448 01:06:35,690 --> 01:06:34,319 that interview uh really just the ones 1449 01:06:39,710 --> 01:06:35,700 that I've already told you this how 1450 01:06:42,890 --> 01:06:39,720 close the UFO has and the fact that you 1451 01:06:44,510 --> 01:06:42,900 know the one thing so many kids saw that 1452 01:06:46,130 --> 01:06:44,520 the teacher refused to talk about it 1453 01:06:48,890 --> 01:06:46,140 yeah and then it's just got a lot of 1454 01:06:50,569 --> 01:06:48,900 interesting sort of little tidbits to it 1455 01:06:52,729 --> 01:06:50,579 the way it was sort of you can see how 1456 01:06:55,039 --> 01:06:52,739 there's more events like this that we're 1457 01:06:57,829 --> 01:06:55,049 not hearing about the way this was 1458 01:06:59,359 --> 01:06:57,839 covered up because the teachers not 1459 01:07:02,539 --> 01:06:59,369 going to talk about your pretty much at 1460 01:07:04,849 --> 01:07:02,549 a loss there's another case that's 1461 01:07:06,349 --> 01:07:04,859 somewhat similar Oh downy elementary 1462 01:07:09,799 --> 01:07:06,359 school this is also in California by 1463 01:07:13,370 --> 01:07:09,809 coincidence in 1977 where a bunch of 1464 01:07:14,809 --> 01:07:13,380 Elementary's aged students saw this 1465 01:07:17,029 --> 01:07:14,819 object over the playground and none of 1466 01:07:18,890 --> 01:07:17,039 the teachers saw it but the students 1467 01:07:21,109 --> 01:07:18,900 certainly talked about it and it was the 1468 01:07:24,499 --> 01:07:21,119 talk of the school turns out one of the 1469 01:07:27,469 --> 01:07:24,509 witnesses had a parent who taught there 1470 01:07:30,319 --> 01:07:27,479 and so this spread like wildfire through 1471 01:07:33,620 --> 01:07:30,329 the school but that's as far as it went 1472 01:07:35,959 --> 01:07:33,630 just not to the teachers and parents wow 1473 01:07:37,940 --> 01:07:35,969 we are gonna be taking calls here I 1474 01:07:41,450 --> 01:07:37,950 actually see a couple coming in they're 1475 01:07:47,299 --> 01:07:41,460 gonna be screened by race over at Kay 1476 01:07:49,370 --> 01:07:47,309 GRA so we have them coming in and as 1477 01:07:53,719 --> 01:07:49,380 soon as he screens the call I'll be 1478 01:07:58,160 --> 01:07:53,729 taking that so I do want to also ask you 1479 01:08:02,299 --> 01:07:58,170 what is the you said that was one of 1480 01:08:06,339 --> 01:08:02,309 your favorite cases but are there cases 1481 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:06,349 also that are really interesting that 1482 01:08:12,709 --> 01:08:10,410 involve like beings besides the ones 1483 01:08:15,049 --> 01:08:12,719 you've already talked about oh yeah like 1484 01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:15,059 the one witness I talked to melody was 1485 01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:16,489 her name 1486 01:08:22,729 --> 01:08:19,170 wow that's an amazing case this occurred 1487 01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:22,739 in 1966 which by the way was a huge year 1488 01:08:27,140 --> 01:08:23,730 this has been the sort of whole 1489 01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:27,150 schoolyard UFO phenomena exploded with 1490 01:08:32,260 --> 01:08:29,690 the Hillsdale College incident Michigan 1491 01:08:35,269 --> 01:08:32,270 followed two weeks later by the 1492 01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:35,279 melbourne-australia case but yeah this 1493 01:08:41,149 --> 01:08:37,170 case at Point Elementary School in st. 1494 01:08:43,309 --> 01:08:41,159 Louis Missouri 1966 began with six kids 1495 01:08:47,030 --> 01:08:43,319 who decided that they were not going to 1496 01:08:48,559 --> 01:08:47,040 you know play Foursquare that day that 1497 01:08:50,990 --> 01:08:48,569 afternoon they were going to go play tag 1498 01:08:52,609 --> 01:08:51,000 at the far end of the field which they 1499 01:08:55,510 --> 01:08:52,619 did and were running around when they 1500 01:08:57,740 --> 01:08:55,520 saw these footprints really small 1501 01:08:59,899 --> 01:08:57,750 bipedal footprints that they couldn't 1502 01:09:01,760 --> 01:08:59,909 make sense of and they were looking at 1503 01:09:02,660 --> 01:09:01,770 them when someone saw a light in the 1504 01:09:05,510 --> 01:09:02,670 trees behind this 1505 01:09:08,870 --> 01:09:05,520 cool and said what's that and their 1506 01:09:10,519 --> 01:09:08,880 first thought was ice cream truck there 1507 01:09:12,410 --> 01:09:10,529 were no roads there there was a little 1508 01:09:15,430 --> 01:09:12,420 farmhouse but even though you know 1509 01:09:17,450 --> 01:09:15,440 there's no roads to it they go running 1510 01:09:18,470 --> 01:09:17,460 beyond the boundary of the school where 1511 01:09:20,510 --> 01:09:18,480 they're not supposed to 1512 01:09:22,700 --> 01:09:20,520 it's not that far it's right there and 1513 01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:22,710 they run up and there's a craft it's 1514 01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:25,770 landed it's got white lights on it it's 1515 01:09:32,900 --> 01:09:29,489 not very large silver metallic and there 1516 01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:32,910 is a being that's twice as close to them 1517 01:09:41,209 --> 01:09:37,489 as the craft maybe 50 feet away 20 feet 1518 01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:41,219 initially and all the kids line up in a 1519 01:09:44,780 --> 01:09:43,170 row and look at this being and the 1520 01:09:45,650 --> 01:09:44,790 witness was very to hear if I'd ever 1521 01:09:47,539 --> 01:09:45,660 heard 1522 01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:47,549 description quite like what she had and 1523 01:09:53,300 --> 01:09:50,370 I had to say no not exactly she 1524 01:09:56,540 --> 01:09:53,310 described a very muscular body he says 1525 01:09:58,700 --> 01:09:56,550 it looked like a gymnast and dark 1526 01:10:01,640 --> 01:09:58,710 skinned or had a very dark jumpsuit on 1527 01:10:03,140 --> 01:10:01,650 in a dark face - she can't really 1528 01:10:04,700 --> 01:10:03,150 remember the eyes other than that they 1529 01:10:08,450 --> 01:10:04,710 were compelling and large and probably 1530 01:10:10,939 --> 01:10:08,460 dark a bald large head but not a grey by 1531 01:10:13,850 --> 01:10:10,949 any means she says it looked more like a 1532 01:10:16,370 --> 01:10:13,860 gorilla its face Wow what it sort of 1533 01:10:18,830 --> 01:10:16,380 reminded her of and this thing locked 1534 01:10:20,630 --> 01:10:18,840 eyes with the witnesses the entire time 1535 01:10:23,390 --> 01:10:20,640 as soon as they showed up it stared at 1536 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:23,400 them and they stared back and it started 1537 01:10:29,150 --> 01:10:26,010 backing up slowly and walking towards 1538 01:10:31,610 --> 01:10:29,160 its craft it passed a cow on the way 1539 01:10:35,030 --> 01:10:31,620 there were six cows at this uh little 1540 01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:35,040 farmhouse right maybe was four touches 1541 01:10:42,229 --> 01:10:38,370 the cow the cow flops over unconscious 1542 01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:42,239 cow tipping yeah right and at this point 1543 01:10:47,780 --> 01:10:45,449 there was a scream behind them it's the 1544 01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:47,790 teacher miss Ohlendorf and she's not 1545 01:10:51,939 --> 01:10:49,890 happy about that what she's seeing she's 1546 01:10:54,860 --> 01:10:51,949 terrified she's absolutely hysterical 1547 01:10:57,830 --> 01:10:54,870 grabs the children and pulls them inside 1548 01:11:01,220 --> 01:10:57,840 and and forces the entire playground 1549 01:11:02,450 --> 01:11:01,230 inside at this point and now the 1550 01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:02,460 students know there's something out 1551 01:11:06,110 --> 01:11:04,890 there they rushed into the classroom and 1552 01:11:07,820 --> 01:11:06,120 they rushed straight to the windows 1553 01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:07,830 because you can still see the craft you 1554 01:11:12,020 --> 01:11:09,690 cannot see the being but you can see the 1555 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:12,030 lights through the trees and these are 1556 01:11:16,460 --> 01:11:13,890 the teachers frantically putting the 1557 01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:16,470 shades down trying to get the students 1558 01:11:20,300 --> 01:11:17,970 from not looking which of course didn't 1559 01:11:23,450 --> 01:11:20,310 work she calls the other teachers and 1560 01:11:25,250 --> 01:11:23,460 the principal and they closed down the 1561 01:11:27,860 --> 01:11:25,260 school for the day this happens in a 1562 01:11:29,540 --> 01:11:27,870 number of cases where schools cut short 1563 01:11:33,410 --> 01:11:29,550 they herded all the kids into the 1564 01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:33,420 auditorium and there were no windows in 1565 01:11:38,030 --> 01:11:35,730 the auditorium just very high ones that 1566 01:11:39,740 --> 01:11:38,040 overlooked the sky and one of the kids 1567 01:11:41,150 --> 01:11:39,750 shouts out cuz they were all trying to 1568 01:11:44,210 --> 01:11:41,160 look for this thing and it goes there it 1569 01:11:46,970 --> 01:11:44,220 goes you know and says she saw this 1570 01:11:48,980 --> 01:11:46,980 thing take off at this point all the 1571 01:11:52,100 --> 01:11:48,990 kids are you know being bussed home the 1572 01:11:55,460 --> 01:11:52,110 school buses were called and there are 1573 01:11:56,570 --> 01:11:55,470 at least four witnesses who remembered 1574 01:11:58,310 --> 01:11:56,580 this I'm trying to get a hold of some of 1575 01:12:01,640 --> 01:11:58,320 the others or apparently are willing to 1576 01:12:04,370 --> 01:12:01,650 talk but yeah it's an amazing case which 1577 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:04,380 is me yeah to me this is one of the most 1578 01:12:09,020 --> 01:12:07,530 amazing cases I mean the rules and Bob 1579 01:12:09,440 --> 01:12:09,030 Lowe case is not unique is what I'm 1580 01:12:11,180 --> 01:12:09,450 saying 1581 01:12:13,850 --> 01:12:11,190 yeah this is occurring all over the 1582 01:12:15,950 --> 01:12:13,860 place Wow we have three calls up waiting 1583 01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:15,960 so I'm going to take the first one right 1584 01:12:22,730 --> 01:12:18,570 here we Steve and Las Vegas welcome to 1585 01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:22,740 the show Thank You Martin hi present two 1586 01:12:29,030 --> 01:12:25,290 quick questions if I may I keep asking 1587 01:12:31,100 --> 01:12:29,040 myself why would these UFOs et's get too 1588 01:12:32,480 --> 01:12:31,110 close to children do you think maybe 1589 01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:32,490 it's because children are more 1590 01:12:39,590 --> 01:12:36,330 open-minded there are more easier no 1591 01:12:43,790 --> 01:12:39,600 hostilities within a child or white 1592 01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:43,800 children yeah I think you've got exactly 1593 01:12:48,830 --> 01:12:46,290 right Steve and because they're an adult 1594 01:12:50,210 --> 01:12:48,840 often has a pure reaction these kids 1595 01:12:53,180 --> 01:12:50,220 generally don't they don't know what a 1596 01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:53,190 UFO is and at least half the cases they 1597 01:12:58,940 --> 01:12:56,250 have no interpretation to this and it 1598 01:13:02,360 --> 01:12:58,950 becomes a very effective method for that 1599 01:13:04,310 --> 01:13:02,370 I think the ETS to fulfill their agenda 1600 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:04,320 which is to sort of get a universal 1601 01:13:09,530 --> 01:13:07,530 belief in UFOs which we see very 1602 01:13:12,290 --> 01:13:09,540 strongly in the younger generations for 1603 01:13:13,670 --> 01:13:12,300 sure and yeah this affects them for a 1604 01:13:16,070 --> 01:13:13,680 very long time they're very 1605 01:13:17,900 --> 01:13:16,080 impressionable and these witnesses often 1606 01:13:20,830 --> 01:13:17,910 come away you know becoming UFO 1607 01:13:23,270 --> 01:13:20,840 investigators writing a book about it 1608 01:13:26,420 --> 01:13:23,280 become very certain science or 1609 01:13:28,580 --> 01:13:26,430 metaphysics or you know things like this 1610 01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:28,590 so it definitely affects them they're 1611 01:13:30,540 --> 01:13:29,730 very impressionable and yeah I think 1612 01:13:33,689 --> 01:13:30,550 there 1613 01:13:37,260 --> 01:13:33,699 right on the nail with that one okay and 1614 01:13:39,870 --> 01:13:37,270 my second question you are kind of like 1615 01:13:47,939 --> 01:13:39,880 I consider an expert on the UFOs over 1616 01:13:50,850 --> 01:13:47,949 California and there's Luis Alonso had 1617 01:13:55,350 --> 01:13:50,860 been to Catalina Island there's going to 1618 01:13:58,560 --> 01:13:55,360 be a program called UAP expeditions led 1619 01:14:01,680 --> 01:13:58,570 by Kevin day and dr. Kevin 1620 01:14:04,169 --> 01:14:01,690 Kenneth former scientist with NASA and 1621 01:14:06,300 --> 01:14:04,179 they plan to go to an active kitchen 1622 01:14:09,209 --> 01:14:06,310 along Cannell Catalina Island and 1623 01:14:12,930 --> 01:14:09,219 Guadalupe Island I think that is out 1624 01:14:14,820 --> 01:14:12,940 there searching do you still believe it 1625 01:14:17,399 --> 01:14:14,830 and I know there's been sightings at 1626 01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:17,409 those bends pleats of UFOs 20:30 1627 01:14:23,419 --> 01:14:20,010 flying out there do you think you still 1628 01:14:27,180 --> 01:14:23,429 can't finding that base out there or you 1629 01:14:30,090 --> 01:14:27,190 know or why they have off why they 1630 01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:30,100 haven't they confer with you get any 1631 01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:31,810 information but if I was going out there 1632 01:14:35,669 --> 01:14:33,250 you'll be the first person I would like 1633 01:14:38,729 --> 01:14:35,679 to talk to you I mean has anybody 1634 01:14:41,370 --> 01:14:38,739 conferred with you um yeah great 1635 01:14:44,510 --> 01:14:41,380 question to have reached out to me so I 1636 01:14:47,010 --> 01:14:44,520 am corresponding with them and I'm 1637 01:14:49,290 --> 01:14:47,020 excited about it because I tell you I've 1638 01:14:51,450 --> 01:14:49,300 been researching this area for well over 1639 01:14:54,899 --> 01:14:51,460 ten years and you're right there are 1640 01:14:57,870 --> 01:14:54,909 fleets but you know it's a very active 1641 01:14:59,850 --> 01:14:57,880 area in a very defined place which to me 1642 01:15:00,899 --> 01:14:59,860 points towards their possibility of a 1643 01:15:02,580 --> 01:15:00,909 base there's other reasons I think 1644 01:15:04,260 --> 01:15:02,590 there's a base there including 1645 01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:04,270 whistleblower accounts there's some 1646 01:15:09,990 --> 01:15:07,810 unusual geological formations there's 1647 01:15:12,870 --> 01:15:10,000 also these cases like said involved in 1648 01:15:14,669 --> 01:15:12,880 30 40 50 a couple cases over a hundred 1649 01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:14,679 objects so where are they all coming 1650 01:15:22,260 --> 01:15:20,530 from so yeah I think I'm there probably 1651 01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:22,270 is a basic out there I don't know if 1652 01:15:29,879 --> 01:15:28,449 we'll ever find it or not but I'm 1653 01:15:31,290 --> 01:15:29,889 excited about this research that's going 1654 01:15:32,149 --> 01:15:31,300 on now and that more attention is being 1655 01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:32,159 paid to it 1656 01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:35,650 excellent any thank you thank you very 1657 01:15:43,979 --> 01:15:37,840 much thanks yeah we have some more calls 1658 01:15:46,020 --> 01:15:43,989 coming in Jack Jack we have you on from 1659 01:15:47,069 --> 01:15:46,030 West Palm Beach Florida which I will be 1660 01:15:50,939 --> 01:15:47,079 down there in a few months 1661 01:15:53,009 --> 01:15:50,949 yep how you doing oh yes very good 1662 01:15:55,799 --> 01:15:53,019 things I just have one short question 1663 01:15:58,140 --> 01:15:55,809 and that is be very interesting to know 1664 01:16:02,120 --> 01:15:58,150 if there were any one or more instances 1665 01:16:05,370 --> 01:16:02,130 of missing time in any of those cases 1666 01:16:07,049 --> 01:16:05,380 yeah great question Jack they're there I 1667 01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:07,059 I wonder about that in some of these 1668 01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:08,050 cases where people think it's just 1669 01:16:13,140 --> 01:16:10,210 sightings because kids would probably 1670 01:16:14,700 --> 01:16:13,150 slip past missing time pretty easily and 1671 01:16:17,850 --> 01:16:14,710 I know there was some confusion about 1672 01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:17,860 time in the rural Zimbabwe case but as 1673 01:16:23,399 --> 01:16:19,449 far as we know it's pretty rare it does 1674 01:16:25,500 --> 01:16:23,409 happen I've got two highschool cases 1675 01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:25,510 that do involve a parent missing time 1676 01:16:31,729 --> 01:16:28,449 one up in the Missouri area there was 1677 01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:31,739 about 50 students having uh sort of uh 1678 01:16:36,540 --> 01:16:34,570 gosh I should cut not a not a dance but 1679 01:16:41,220 --> 01:16:36,550 sort of a sleepover a slumber party at 1680 01:16:43,859 --> 01:16:41,230 the gymnasium off all females and there 1681 01:16:46,500 --> 01:16:43,869 was an incident and apparently missing 1682 01:16:48,870 --> 01:16:46,510 time time was stopped grades came in and 1683 01:16:50,790 --> 01:16:48,880 took about four or five of the girls out 1684 01:16:54,540 --> 01:16:50,800 into a UFO which had landed right next 1685 01:16:57,180 --> 01:16:54,550 to the school and conducted some sort of 1686 01:16:59,910 --> 01:16:57,190 physical examination and other physical 1687 01:17:01,439 --> 01:16:59,920 stuff put him back in and everything 1688 01:17:05,250 --> 01:17:01,449 started up again and no one was the 1689 01:17:08,669 --> 01:17:05,260 wiser so yes there are missing time and 1690 01:17:11,089 --> 01:17:08,679 there's another one a cone our high 1691 01:17:14,009 --> 01:17:11,099 school gentleman I talked to firsthand 1692 01:17:18,029 --> 01:17:14,019 had a incident where Gray's again walked 1693 01:17:21,839 --> 01:17:18,039 in took a wand struck him on the head he 1694 01:17:23,549 --> 01:17:21,849 fainted remembered that later at first 1695 01:17:25,950 --> 01:17:23,559 he thought his friend had punched him in 1696 01:17:28,229 --> 01:17:25,960 the face and sort of used that as a 1697 01:17:31,529 --> 01:17:28,239 screen memory which turned out not to be 1698 01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:31,539 what happened and he had about a half an 1699 01:17:34,319 --> 01:17:33,010 hour of missing time he thinks along 1700 01:17:36,149 --> 01:17:34,329 with some other students were really 1701 01:17:42,419 --> 01:17:36,159 freaked out and didn't notice the time 1702 01:17:43,620 --> 01:17:42,429 lost well very interesting well oh all 1703 01:17:46,589 --> 01:17:43,630 right well let you get on to the next 1704 01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:46,599 color variants of scenes but love 1705 01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:48,610 listening to your presentations I love 1706 01:17:55,049 --> 01:17:51,449 the way you present it's a lot of cases 1707 01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:55,059 it's better to me then more the 1708 01:17:59,820 --> 01:17:57,489 disclosure talk and the politics 1709 01:18:03,390 --> 01:17:59,830 well thank you very much all right 1710 01:18:05,550 --> 01:18:03,400 thanks and let's see we have someone 1711 01:18:07,830 --> 01:18:05,560 trying to call in hopefully that will be 1712 01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:07,840 answered for right now 1713 01:18:15,870 --> 01:18:10,570 we're going to bring in Ryan from South 1714 01:18:19,580 --> 01:18:15,880 Carolina welcome to the show good how 1715 01:18:24,990 --> 01:18:22,380 well thank you you have a question for 1716 01:18:26,870 --> 01:18:25,000 our guest been a long time yeah it's 1717 01:18:30,570 --> 01:18:26,880 been a long time isn't it 1718 01:18:33,709 --> 01:18:30,580 let me see yeah I wanted to ask him has 1719 01:18:36,090 --> 01:18:33,719 he ever done any kind of statistical 1720 01:18:39,150 --> 01:18:36,100 analysis of the number of these 1721 01:18:42,990 --> 01:18:39,160 sightings versus time here to kind of 1722 01:18:45,450 --> 01:18:43,000 compare how how this works as far as the 1723 01:18:48,030 --> 01:18:45,460 public consciousness is as far as you 1724 01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:48,040 have that is go in other words has there 1725 01:18:56,090 --> 01:18:50,290 been a spike is in these sightings 1726 01:18:58,800 --> 01:18:56,100 versus versus the points where the 1727 01:19:00,300 --> 01:18:58,810 points where you know UFOs have entered 1728 01:19:02,430 --> 01:19:00,310 a public consciousness consciousness 1729 01:19:03,979 --> 01:19:02,440 like they did in the 70s and 80s and so 1730 01:19:11,250 --> 01:19:03,989 on 1731 01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:11,260 haven't but I can't tell you that you 1732 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:14,530 know it did it all sort of went go under 1733 01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:17,290 the radar until about 1966 when the 1734 01:19:22,229 --> 01:19:20,290 Hillsdale Michigan incident occurred 87 1735 01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:22,239 students saw this as well school 1736 01:19:26,970 --> 01:19:25,450 officials police officers this thing 1737 01:19:29,190 --> 01:19:26,980 hovered over the school for about two 1738 01:19:32,250 --> 01:19:29,200 hours and did land in front of the 1739 01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:32,260 school at one point and two weeks later 1740 01:19:37,850 --> 01:19:35,770 was the melbourne-australia incident one 1741 01:19:40,250 --> 01:19:37,860 year to the day after that was opa-locka 1742 01:19:42,330 --> 01:19:40,260 there's a lot of weird cases where 1743 01:19:45,930 --> 01:19:42,340 there'll be an incident and then two 1744 01:19:48,570 --> 01:19:45,940 weeks later another or a year later sort 1745 01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:48,580 of weird timing to it but I haven't been 1746 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:50,410 able to relate it to sort of the belief 1747 01:19:56,700 --> 01:19:53,050 in UFOs or the you know how society is 1748 01:19:59,610 --> 01:19:56,710 reacting to the UFO phenomena other than 1749 01:20:01,440 --> 01:19:59,620 people the witnesses who saw this stuff 1750 01:20:04,170 --> 01:20:01,450 remember it for the rest of their lives 1751 01:20:07,350 --> 01:20:04,180 like I think about this every day is a 1752 01:20:08,910 --> 01:20:07,360 very common sort of reaction and to some 1753 01:20:11,550 --> 01:20:08,920 it has a profound effect on their life 1754 01:20:15,260 --> 01:20:11,560 some actually do have visit 1755 01:20:18,419 --> 01:20:15,270 following these sightings really well oh 1756 01:20:21,209 --> 01:20:18,429 because it's almost like he the these 1757 01:20:22,620 --> 01:20:21,219 these reports you know kind of spike at 1758 01:20:25,350 --> 01:20:22,630 certain points when you think about 1759 01:20:27,870 --> 01:20:25,360 statistically I mean after Betty and 1760 01:20:30,570 --> 01:20:27,880 Barney Hill reported their kidnapping 1761 01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:30,580 and after Roswell became big in the 80s 1762 01:20:34,979 --> 01:20:33,370 and and that's so on and so forth you 1763 01:20:37,380 --> 01:20:34,989 know they just they just kind of spike I 1764 01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:37,390 mean I'm not calling anyone faking 1765 01:20:41,820 --> 01:20:39,370 anything I'm just saying they do they do 1766 01:20:44,550 --> 01:20:41,830 statistically kind of spike you know at 1767 01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:44,560 certain point it's about one or two 1768 01:20:51,570 --> 01:20:47,050 cases per year is if you average it out 1769 01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:51,580 statistically two to three so I'm yeah 1770 01:20:55,050 --> 01:20:52,690 but I'm thinking it's a lot more than 1771 01:20:59,459 --> 01:20:56,880 hey Ryan we have a little trouble with 1772 01:21:01,520 --> 01:20:59,469 your phone so we're gonna say goodnight 1773 01:21:06,419 --> 01:21:01,530 but thank you very much for the question 1774 01:21:10,500 --> 01:21:06,429 hey good all right thanks all right so 1775 01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:10,510 we have Bob on line one from Michigan 1776 01:21:17,729 --> 01:21:16,050 welcome to the show Bob whoa thanks 1777 01:21:22,820 --> 01:21:17,739 can't hear you Bob 1778 01:21:24,630 --> 01:21:22,830 say it again yes I said that thank you 1779 01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:24,640 good to get through 1780 01:21:31,020 --> 01:21:28,449 I heard Preston mention not Hillsdale 1781 01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:31,030 College in Michigan and I'm since I'm 1782 01:21:36,330 --> 01:21:33,370 from Michigan and I've I've been there I 1783 01:21:39,990 --> 01:21:36,340 was curious about that case as well if 1784 01:21:42,270 --> 01:21:40,000 he is you know anything more to say 1785 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:42,280 about that or you know description of 1786 01:21:47,250 --> 01:21:45,610 that yes I'd be interested yeah yeah 1787 01:21:48,450 --> 01:21:47,260 well they described this object other 1788 01:21:51,450 --> 01:21:48,460 than what I've already talked about it 1789 01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:51,460 came very close to the dorms it hovered 1790 01:21:56,540 --> 01:21:54,370 for quite some time doing some really 1791 01:21:59,040 --> 01:21:56,550 fantastic maneuvers as if showing off 1792 01:22:00,450 --> 01:21:59,050 the police were going to shoot at it the 1793 01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:00,460 other officer said no don't 1794 01:22:06,630 --> 01:22:03,210 it won't that's probably not a good idea 1795 01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:06,640 this caused a huge public uproar when Jo 1796 01:22:10,290 --> 01:22:08,650 and high-neck showed up after the 1797 01:22:13,950 --> 01:22:10,300 incident and explained it away his 1798 01:22:18,270 --> 01:22:13,960 swapped gasps oh that one on and turn 1799 01:22:20,580 --> 01:22:18,280 turns out that representative Ford was 1800 01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:20,590 you know representing Michigan at the 1801 01:22:24,450 --> 01:22:22,330 time became president and he had 1802 01:22:24,780 --> 01:22:24,460 promised to sort of divulge the UFO and 1803 01:22:27,180 --> 01:22:24,790 from 1804 01:22:30,300 --> 01:22:27,190 she never really did but this did lead 1805 01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:30,310 to a congressional investigation sort of 1806 01:22:34,890 --> 01:22:32,410 indirectly into UFO is the first 1807 01:22:37,770 --> 01:22:34,900 congressional investigation and also 1808 01:22:39,300 --> 01:22:37,780 sort of spelled the end of Luba project 1809 01:22:42,510 --> 01:22:39,310 Bluebook who was looking for a way out 1810 01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:42,520 and around that time that you know found 1811 01:22:45,660 --> 01:22:43,810 a way out 1812 01:22:49,530 --> 01:22:45,670 and this was sort of the low point in 1813 01:22:51,990 --> 01:22:49,540 jail in hynek's career he said because 1814 01:22:53,820 --> 01:22:52,000 it was a circus and he knew at this 1815 01:22:56,220 --> 01:22:53,830 point that UFOs were probably will real 1816 01:22:58,380 --> 01:22:56,230 and he was done toeing the party line 1817 01:23:00,330 --> 01:22:58,390 and eventually ya win against the 1818 01:23:02,130 --> 01:23:00,340 airports and said this is a real 1819 01:23:04,830 --> 01:23:02,140 phenomena when the air force was still 1820 01:23:08,910 --> 01:23:04,840 heavily into denial and still are for 1821 01:23:13,050 --> 01:23:08,920 that matter okay I didn't I just didn't 1822 01:23:15,630 --> 01:23:13,060 realize that Hillsdale College was part 1823 01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:15,640 of that you know the whole swampy is 1824 01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:19,090 Bank yeah yeah they're very influential 1825 01:23:25,620 --> 01:23:21,250 case and so they've had a real impact on 1826 01:23:29,660 --> 01:23:25,630 society history yeah I think the swampy 1827 01:23:33,650 --> 01:23:29,670 it's swampy escapes encompassed several 1828 01:23:36,180 --> 01:23:33,660 sightings all around the same time right 1829 01:23:39,630 --> 01:23:36,190 that's the one that popularized it for 1830 01:23:41,310 --> 01:23:39,640 sure her that that's the one you know 1831 01:23:46,020 --> 01:23:41,320 the swamp gas explanation that really 1832 01:23:48,540 --> 01:23:46,030 took off and was widely published all 1833 01:23:53,180 --> 01:23:48,550 right daughter thank you very much for 1834 01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:53,190 the call and good night 1835 01:24:00,720 --> 01:23:56,290 so the lines are open if anyone wants to 1836 01:24:04,950 --> 01:24:00,730 give us a ring that number is eight 5kg 1837 01:24:09,740 --> 01:24:04,960 are a live or eight five five four seven 1838 01:24:15,450 --> 01:24:09,750 two five four eight three lines are open 1839 01:24:18,060 --> 01:24:15,460 when you mentioned that these things are 1840 01:24:22,350 --> 01:24:18,070 covered up I just wondered was there any 1841 01:24:25,440 --> 01:24:22,360 cases that you're aware of where it was 1842 01:24:27,900 --> 01:24:25,450 really hard to get the information from 1843 01:24:31,350 --> 01:24:27,910 because of it was sort of covered up 1844 01:24:33,330 --> 01:24:31,360 like nobody talked about it it was out 1845 01:24:37,140 --> 01:24:33,340 of the press anything like that that was 1846 01:24:38,189 --> 01:24:37,150 really interesting that you found not 1847 01:24:39,509 --> 01:24:38,199 not 1848 01:24:41,729 --> 01:24:39,519 currently because currently there's a 1849 01:24:43,830 --> 01:24:41,739 much more openness to this I think we're 1850 01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:43,840 looking at a society now that mostly 1851 01:24:48,689 --> 01:24:47,170 believes in UFOs and these students have 1852 01:24:52,229 --> 01:24:48,699 stuck to their stories almost 1853 01:24:55,469 --> 01:24:52,239 universally and the famous cases like 1854 01:24:57,569 --> 01:24:55,479 broad Haven and Wales and the Melbourne 1855 01:25:01,739 --> 01:24:57,579 case and the opa-locka Florida case they 1856 01:25:04,699 --> 01:25:01,749 have memorials set up so people are 1857 01:25:08,489 --> 01:25:04,709 pretty open to it at this point and 1858 01:25:10,319 --> 01:25:08,499 think that the cover-up that we see is 1859 01:25:13,140 --> 01:25:10,329 sort of an open conspiracy right now and 1860 01:25:15,239 --> 01:25:13,150 is slowly crumbling because our 1861 01:25:17,399 --> 01:25:15,249 government has is so neck deep in this 1862 01:25:19,739 --> 01:25:17,409 stuff and has so much stuff to cover up 1863 01:25:24,209 --> 01:25:19,749 that this is small fries you know they 1864 01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:24,219 don't care yeah it is unfortunate a lot 1865 01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:25,449 of these cases weren't more fully 1866 01:25:31,140 --> 01:25:29,050 investigated and hopefully that will 1867 01:25:35,580 --> 01:25:31,150 change because I think this is still 1868 01:25:37,169 --> 01:25:35,590 going on well that's what you know the 1869 01:25:41,100 --> 01:25:37,179 evidence is showing these cases are 1870 01:25:45,719 --> 01:25:41,110 relatively current you know well 1871 01:25:49,830 --> 01:25:45,729 interesting we have Michael just waiting 1872 01:25:55,199 --> 01:25:49,840 for him to go on hold he is calling from 1873 01:25:58,739 --> 01:25:55,209 Connecticut and I think it's Connecticut 1874 01:26:02,069 --> 01:25:58,749 welcome to the show Michael where are 1875 01:26:04,319 --> 01:26:02,079 you calling from Cincinnati 1876 01:26:07,169 --> 01:26:04,329 Oh Cincinnati that's what it is okay 1877 01:26:08,819 --> 01:26:07,179 welcome to the show and we have all of a 1878 01:26:10,949 --> 01:26:08,829 sudden we have other callers groans oh 1879 01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:10,959 yeah thanks you have a question for our 1880 01:26:18,390 --> 01:26:15,489 guest yeah Preston was pretty with it as 1881 01:26:20,430 --> 01:26:18,400 far as cases remember here in a case at 1882 01:26:22,739 --> 01:26:20,440 a high school near me in the late 1883 01:26:25,649 --> 01:26:22,749 sixties Murray Mont High School in 1884 01:26:27,540 --> 01:26:25,659 Cincinnati believe is on the weekend 1885 01:26:30,839 --> 01:26:27,550 a high school dance was happening and 1886 01:26:34,049 --> 01:26:30,849 there was sightings outside of the dance 1887 01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:34,059 so outside the high school there and I 1888 01:26:40,919 --> 01:26:36,610 just wanted to say that rang a bell to 1889 01:26:42,330 --> 01:26:40,929 him about what year it doesn't not ring 1890 01:26:47,219 --> 01:26:42,340 a bell miramont I would in the late 1891 01:26:49,979 --> 01:26:47,229 sixties it was probably 66 67 like that 1892 01:26:51,460 --> 01:26:49,989 ya know I don't have that case I don't 1893 01:26:55,990 --> 01:26:51,470 know about it 1894 01:26:58,750 --> 01:26:56,000 but it's okay and another thing I'd like 1895 01:27:01,420 --> 01:26:58,760 to add is I think one of the main 1896 01:27:03,850 --> 01:27:01,430 reasons that children are selected in 1897 01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:03,860 schools children don't carry weapons at 1898 01:27:11,770 --> 01:27:09,050 all Wow I wanted to point that out 1899 01:27:13,690 --> 01:27:11,780 but thanks for taking my call thank you 1900 01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:13,700 that's that's an interesting point 1901 01:27:17,890 --> 01:27:15,770 we have other callers are waiting on 1902 01:27:22,180 --> 01:27:17,900 hold but go ahead and address that if 1903 01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:22,190 you'd like to I never found that yeah 1904 01:27:27,670 --> 01:27:24,170 I'm not sure if that's true so much 1905 01:27:29,890 --> 01:27:27,680 today but it's true I hope I hope it is 1906 01:27:33,340 --> 01:27:29,900 yeah but the fact that mostly elementary 1907 01:27:36,580 --> 01:27:33,350 schools are targeted is significant I 1908 01:27:39,130 --> 01:27:36,590 think because the children are very 1909 01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:39,140 special witnesses they remember this 1910 01:27:43,420 --> 01:27:41,090 stuff very vividly like we said they 1911 01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:43,430 have no judgment no preconceptions yeah 1912 01:27:47,980 --> 01:27:46,250 and in large groups of them so if it was 1913 01:27:49,150 --> 01:27:47,990 one or two students you know trying to 1914 01:27:51,480 --> 01:27:49,160 pull up a hoax well you could probably 1915 01:27:54,070 --> 01:27:51,490 catch it pretty quickly anyway because 1916 01:27:56,010 --> 01:27:54,080 it's when students you know what when 1917 01:27:59,820 --> 01:27:56,020 really young children particularly lie 1918 01:28:02,770 --> 01:27:59,830 it's they're pretty transparent about it 1919 01:28:05,260 --> 01:28:02,780 for an adult at least to spot it yeah 1920 01:28:07,810 --> 01:28:05,270 and that's now we're seen in these cases 1921 01:28:09,250 --> 01:28:07,820 I mean the ROO is in Bible case it was 1922 01:28:11,110 --> 01:28:09,260 pretty clear from the beginning these 1923 01:28:14,020 --> 01:28:11,120 kids were telling the truth that was 1924 01:28:17,230 --> 01:28:14,030 true in the broad Haven case true in the 1925 01:28:20,530 --> 01:28:17,240 Rozsival case and gosh that was in 1926 01:28:23,670 --> 01:28:20,540 England so it's all over the world it's 1927 01:28:26,770 --> 01:28:23,680 amazing how you know pervasive and just 1928 01:28:29,050 --> 01:28:26,780 ubiquitous this phenomena is right right 1929 01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:29,060 speaking of all over the world we have 1930 01:28:35,950 --> 01:28:31,370 Bob calling from Denmark welcome to the 1931 01:28:40,300 --> 01:28:35,960 show Bob readings raining I would like 1932 01:28:42,810 --> 01:28:40,310 to ask the researcher if he has made any 1933 01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:42,820 of his research available online 1934 01:28:48,190 --> 01:28:45,890 what I'm really amazing a lot a lot of 1935 01:28:51,070 --> 01:28:48,200 research is doing research but they 1936 01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:51,080 don't seem to publish any in a 1937 01:28:57,310 --> 01:28:54,530 searchable format right I do have a 1938 01:28:59,110 --> 01:28:57,320 website where I publish you know all my 1939 01:29:03,880 --> 01:28:59,120 book not entirety of the books but 1940 01:29:05,089 --> 01:29:03,890 certainly large excerpts and do do try 1941 01:29:07,609 --> 01:29:05,099 to publish my 1942 01:29:10,100 --> 01:29:07,619 because I know there's a enormous number 1943 01:29:13,310 --> 01:29:10,110 of great researchers who are sitting on 1944 01:29:15,169 --> 01:29:13,320 loads of data and it's very annoying and 1945 01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:15,179 I try to public at least publish 1946 01:29:20,209 --> 01:29:17,610 everything that uh I'm working very hard 1947 01:29:24,830 --> 01:29:20,219 at that publishing all my research and 1948 01:29:28,399 --> 01:29:24,840 do try to make sure yeah and doubt what 1949 01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:28,409 this is hang on just one second Bob this 1950 01:29:34,010 --> 01:29:30,210 sounds like a good time to plug your 1951 01:29:35,750 --> 01:29:34,020 book so why don't you go ahead and give 1952 01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:35,760 the full title to that and where someone 1953 01:29:40,879 --> 01:29:38,489 can find it yeah the book is called 1954 01:29:45,109 --> 01:29:40,889 schoolyard UFO encounters it's available 1955 01:29:47,990 --> 01:29:45,119 on Amazon and other online booksellers I 1956 01:29:49,459 --> 01:29:48,000 do have a website my just google my name 1957 01:29:51,950 --> 01:29:49,469 it should take you right there Preston 1958 01:29:54,229 --> 01:29:51,960 Dennett weebly.com you can buy the book 1959 01:29:56,359 --> 01:29:54,239 through there or contact me if you have 1960 01:29:59,629 --> 01:29:56,369 a case you want to share or a question 1961 01:30:03,589 --> 01:29:59,639 or a comment I always love hearing 1962 01:30:05,149 --> 01:30:03,599 people yeah yeah this book I mean there 1963 01:30:06,620 --> 01:30:05,159 are cases here that really sort of off 1964 01:30:08,419 --> 01:30:06,630 robbing the edge of tears because we're 1965 01:30:10,310 --> 01:30:08,429 dealing with very young children here 1966 01:30:11,859 --> 01:30:10,320 you know it blew me away having 1967 01:30:14,750 --> 01:30:11,869 researched UFOs for this long and 1968 01:30:18,910 --> 01:30:14,760 finding this out was quite a shock well 1969 01:30:23,060 --> 01:30:18,920 Bob did you have anything to add or ask 1970 01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:23,070 yes my second question is when you 1971 01:30:27,500 --> 01:30:25,530 researched all of these cases did you 1972 01:30:30,979 --> 01:30:27,510 find any place where you could to search 1973 01:30:33,950 --> 01:30:30,989 multiple cases at the same time for 1974 01:30:40,069 --> 01:30:33,960 example I want to see all cases with 1975 01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:40,079 more than 30% aeneas witnesses no I'm 1976 01:30:47,359 --> 01:30:42,449 not quite sure I understand what you're 1977 01:30:53,419 --> 01:30:47,369 asking me so you said me I do a lot of 1978 01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:53,429 research I have talked to multiple 1979 01:30:58,010 --> 01:30:56,489 witnesses for a single case or I'm 1980 01:31:01,640 --> 01:30:58,020 trying to do that at least in some of 1981 01:31:04,010 --> 01:31:01,650 these cases and it's pretty rare for UFO 1982 01:31:06,500 --> 01:31:04,020 to visit the same school twice although 1983 01:31:08,089 --> 01:31:06,510 that does happen but usually it's you 1984 01:31:10,549 --> 01:31:08,099 know the same part of the same incident 1985 01:31:15,529 --> 01:31:10,559 it'll come like over a period of days if 1986 01:31:18,350 --> 01:31:15,539 that's what you mean no I mean you have 1987 01:31:20,030 --> 01:31:18,360 you don't make research available in a 1988 01:31:23,590 --> 01:31:20,040 to be somewhat yourself but did you find 1989 01:31:27,260 --> 01:31:23,600 other places on the available online 1990 01:31:29,480 --> 01:31:27,270 where you can do that oh yeah yeah there 1991 01:31:33,170 --> 01:31:29,490 are online databases like the national 1992 01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:33,180 UFO Reporting Center mutual UFO network 1993 01:31:38,780 --> 01:31:36,210 and a number of others and Kendall are 1994 01:31:40,850 --> 01:31:38,790 another cases catalog so you can search 1995 01:31:43,940 --> 01:31:40,860 by attribute for example more than 30 1996 01:31:45,770 --> 01:31:43,950 witnesses yeah there are cases on there 1997 01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:45,780 there I know the Crestview case has got 1998 01:31:51,140 --> 01:31:47,690 a quite a bit of information online as 1999 01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:51,150 does the major cases I think it's unjust 2000 01:31:55,370 --> 01:31:53,250 I think you misunderstand what I'm 2001 01:31:58,790 --> 01:31:55,380 asking I'm asking were you able to 2002 01:32:00,860 --> 01:31:58,800 search and get a list of all the cases 2003 01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:00,870 they have with more than 30 witnesses 2004 01:32:06,050 --> 01:32:03,330 per case Oh involved in children or 2005 01:32:09,470 --> 01:32:06,060 whatever I attribute to do they have 2006 01:32:12,620 --> 01:32:09,480 indexed I believe no I believe Preston 2007 01:32:16,100 --> 01:32:12,630 what he's trying to ask is are you able 2008 01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:16,110 to search through a categorization in 2009 01:32:20,900 --> 01:32:19,050 other words like a you know the 2010 01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:20,910 children's ages perhaps or Emily 2011 01:32:26,030 --> 01:32:23,570 witnesses weren't involved 2012 01:32:27,590 --> 01:32:26,040 did you find any place where every 2013 01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:27,600 search was presented in a searchable 2014 01:32:34,130 --> 01:32:31,410 format no not in a way that I would have 2015 01:32:35,030 --> 01:32:34,140 liked so I caused a lot of reading and I 2016 01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:35,040 had to go through these cases 2017 01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:37,410 individually looking for them there are 2018 01:32:42,980 --> 01:32:40,250 you can just sort of find on page 2019 01:32:46,310 --> 01:32:42,990 searches where you can point you know 2020 01:32:47,930 --> 01:32:46,320 word out that sort of thing but yeah in 2021 01:32:49,220 --> 01:32:47,940 terms of finding most pollutants cases 2022 01:32:52,030 --> 01:32:49,230 that was very difficult because of the 2023 01:32:55,580 --> 01:32:52,040 problem you're talking about right now 2024 01:32:59,870 --> 01:32:55,590 took a lot of time okay well thank you 2025 01:33:04,310 --> 01:32:59,880 for thanks all right thanks for the call 2026 01:33:06,860 --> 01:33:04,320 Bob all right next we have Gil calling 2027 01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:06,870 from Roswell New Mexico 2028 01:33:13,370 --> 01:33:10,770 welcome to the show Gil hey how you 2029 01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:13,380 doing Martin great show thank you thank 2030 01:33:20,410 --> 01:33:15,210 you you have a question for Preston 2031 01:33:24,070 --> 01:33:20,420 tonight yes I matter of fact I do sir 2032 01:33:27,500 --> 01:33:24,080 I'm calling in in the middle of your 2033 01:33:32,239 --> 01:33:27,510 broadcast here and uh but I wanted to 2034 01:33:39,219 --> 01:33:32,249 ask him has he done any research 2035 01:33:43,250 --> 01:33:39,229 on let's say this people that have 2036 01:33:47,830 --> 01:33:43,260 experienced either Close Encounters 1 2 2037 01:33:52,549 --> 01:33:47,840 3 4 or whatever around either nuclear 2038 01:33:57,259 --> 01:33:52,559 nuclear sites or as here as Walker Air 2039 01:34:01,000 --> 01:33:57,269 Force Base has they been have they been 2040 01:34:06,770 --> 01:34:01,010 maybe more encounters or maybe 2041 01:34:09,830 --> 01:34:06,780 abductions around hot spots like here at 2042 01:34:12,620 --> 01:34:09,840 Walker in the 60s where the b-52s is 2043 01:34:14,870 --> 01:34:12,630 loaded down ready to go to Cuba and the 2044 01:34:17,989 --> 01:34:14,880 Cuban Missile Crisis 2045 01:34:22,060 --> 01:34:17,999 or like up there my knots and around up 2046 01:34:25,850 --> 01:34:22,070 there any more activity with sightings 2047 01:34:29,739 --> 01:34:25,860 abductions or anything like that and 2048 01:34:33,319 --> 01:34:29,749 then I do have a statement after that 2049 01:34:36,169 --> 01:34:33,329 yeah I think that nuclear power stations 2050 01:34:39,140 --> 01:34:36,179 any thing at all to do with nuclear 2051 01:34:41,839 --> 01:34:39,150 stuff missiles as a big UFO attractor 2052 01:34:44,180 --> 01:34:41,849 and we do see large clusters of 2053 01:34:49,189 --> 01:34:44,190 sightings Holloman Air Force bases are 2054 01:34:51,169 --> 01:34:49,199 veritable UFO magnet you know for years 2055 01:34:53,239 --> 01:34:51,179 and years and we do see clusters of 2056 01:34:54,770 --> 01:34:53,249 abductions around Air Force bases which 2057 01:34:57,410 --> 01:34:54,780 do seem to be a little bit higher than 2058 01:34:59,500 --> 01:34:57,420 normal I haven't really looked into that 2059 01:35:02,600 --> 01:34:59,510 in a way that I can you know prove that 2060 01:35:03,799 --> 01:35:02,610 but I've certainly noticed it and I'm 2061 01:35:05,719 --> 01:35:03,809 like wow this is right next to an Air 2062 01:35:07,759 --> 01:35:05,729 Force Base again whoo 2063 01:35:11,450 --> 01:35:07,769 so I want you to no wonder about that 2064 01:35:15,020 --> 01:35:11,460 yeah yeah well you know I grew up around 2065 01:35:17,089 --> 01:35:15,030 Walker and I was born in 63 my 2066 01:35:20,930 --> 01:35:17,099 brother-in-law was the MP out there and 2067 01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:20,940 guarded the b-52s and from a young age 2068 01:35:30,049 --> 01:35:27,210 from 8 was a really unusual encounter 2069 01:35:33,770 --> 01:35:30,059 that night and maybe an 8 years old and 2070 01:35:36,020 --> 01:35:33,780 I've heard other people say a year there 2071 01:35:40,430 --> 01:35:36,030 when they turned eight years old that 2072 01:35:45,220 --> 01:35:40,440 they've had unusual you know encounters 2073 01:35:48,340 --> 01:35:45,230 or sightings and all so 2074 01:35:51,250 --> 01:35:48,350 my first daylight sighting was at the 2075 01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:51,260 age of 12 and that was in early february 2076 01:35:59,500 --> 01:35:57,170 of 1975 and for crafts and believe me 2077 01:36:02,950 --> 01:35:59,510 when you're when we when I was growing 2078 01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:02,960 up around Walker you seen everything in 2079 01:36:10,170 --> 01:36:06,489 the sky you know from the heavy skyhook 2080 01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:10,180 helicopters to the huge to these huge 2081 01:36:15,190 --> 01:36:12,530 weather balloons that they'd set off 2082 01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:15,200 from Parliament Alamogordo White Sands 2083 01:36:19,300 --> 01:36:17,330 Missile Range and you would see them at 2084 01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:19,310 the stratosphere and it mushroom out 2085 01:36:26,050 --> 01:36:22,370 well you know these was not what what me 2086 01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:26,060 and my father my father and I saw we we 2087 01:36:35,140 --> 01:36:31,610 saw many crafts that was absolutely you 2088 01:36:37,570 --> 01:36:35,150 know not that we'd ever seen before that 2089 01:36:41,740 --> 01:36:37,580 that flew out of this air base this 2090 01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:41,750 world-famous Air Force Base but I was 2091 01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:43,930 just wondering like that because I'm 2092 01:36:52,710 --> 01:36:47,930 they seems like to me that there's a lot 2093 01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:52,720 of sightings and actually abductions 2094 01:36:59,440 --> 01:36:56,090 around this area that I've talked to and 2095 01:37:03,820 --> 01:36:59,450 believe me I didn't know anything about 2096 01:37:05,710 --> 01:37:03,830 the 47 crash my aunt and uncle was out 2097 01:37:09,490 --> 01:37:05,720 here and my mother and father at that 2098 01:37:13,210 --> 01:37:09,500 time and my uncle was a fireman and they 2099 01:37:15,370 --> 01:37:13,220 didn't recollect that at all yeah of 2100 01:37:18,729 --> 01:37:15,380 course he could have been off or you 2101 01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:18,739 know off-duty or whatever but anyway I 2102 01:37:24,550 --> 01:37:23,090 thought I'd get your input on that yeah 2103 01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:24,560 I do believe the Roswell incident 2104 01:37:27,870 --> 01:37:26,570 occurred for sure I mean there's far too 2105 01:37:32,290 --> 01:37:27,880 many witnesses 2106 01:37:35,710 --> 01:37:32,300 for this to have been a hoax or a mogul 2107 01:37:37,570 --> 01:37:35,720 balloon or anything like that so as far 2108 01:37:39,430 --> 01:37:37,580 as I have looked into Roswell incident I 2109 01:37:42,580 --> 01:37:39,440 wrote a book called UFOs over New Mexico 2110 01:37:44,170 --> 01:37:42,590 which sort of documented this activity 2111 01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:44,180 in that state and it's a very active 2112 01:37:48,610 --> 01:37:45,770 state for sure and I think it's largely 2113 01:37:51,250 --> 01:37:48,620 because of the research into nuclear 2114 01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:51,260 power that took place there very well 2115 01:37:56,470 --> 01:37:54,530 could be thanks for the call thanks for 2116 01:37:58,540 --> 01:37:56,480 the home Martin all right show have a 2117 01:38:01,540 --> 01:37:58,550 good night Chris she ate bye 2118 01:38:03,490 --> 01:38:01,550 all right the lines are open and that 2119 01:38:07,660 --> 01:38:03,500 number is again eight five five four 2120 01:38:08,830 --> 01:38:07,670 seven two five four eight three all 2121 01:38:11,950 --> 01:38:08,840 right I'm gonna ask you this question 2122 01:38:13,570 --> 01:38:11,960 what is the weirdest schoolyard 2123 01:38:17,530 --> 01:38:13,580 encounter that you can think of and all 2124 01:38:19,750 --> 01:38:17,540 this research you've done yeah well do 2125 01:38:20,410 --> 01:38:19,760 you remember the Lonnie Zamora landing 2126 01:38:22,540 --> 01:38:20,420 oh yes 2127 01:38:24,310 --> 01:38:22,550 very very famous three days after that 2128 01:38:27,130 --> 01:38:24,320 there was a sighting at Lowell 2129 01:38:29,830 --> 01:38:27,140 elementary school the main witness 2130 01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:29,840 Sharon stalls saw this object egg-shaped 2131 01:38:32,650 --> 01:38:31,130 mr. robb 2132 01:38:34,510 --> 01:38:32,660 just just one second where where is that 2133 01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:34,520 located 2134 01:38:39,100 --> 01:38:35,690 this is Albuquerque New Mexico 2135 01:38:40,540 --> 01:38:39,110 Albuquerque okay yeah not far from you 2136 01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:40,550 know where Ronnie Zamora had his 2137 01:38:47,470 --> 01:38:44,690 sighting really and right where'd this 2138 01:38:51,130 --> 01:38:47,480 guy you know the former caller was 2139 01:38:55,270 --> 01:38:51,140 talking about so coincidence there but 2140 01:38:57,250 --> 01:38:55,280 at any rate this was gosh I believe 1964 2141 01:39:02,260 --> 01:38:57,260 something like that 2142 01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:02,270 yeah April 29th 1964 and the whole 2143 01:39:05,410 --> 01:39:04,370 playground apparently saw this thing but 2144 01:39:08,170 --> 01:39:05,420 no one was really paying much attention 2145 01:39:09,750 --> 01:39:08,180 to it Sharon was very intrigued by it 2146 01:39:13,170 --> 01:39:09,760 and watched the sting for the entire 2147 01:39:15,220 --> 01:39:13,180 duration of recess went back into class 2148 01:39:16,780 --> 01:39:15,230 afterwards the scene came very low at 2149 01:39:20,170 --> 01:39:16,790 some point was bobbing around doing 2150 01:39:22,150 --> 01:39:20,180 weird movements like yo-yo movement 2151 01:39:25,480 --> 01:39:22,160 since pendulum movements and things like 2152 01:39:29,290 --> 01:39:25,490 this and went back into class and 2153 01:39:31,570 --> 01:39:29,300 started to feel unwell and rushed to the 2154 01:39:34,870 --> 01:39:31,580 nurse because her face felt like it was 2155 01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:34,880 on fire and a nurse was very alarmed and 2156 01:39:38,830 --> 01:39:37,250 said you've got you know second-degree 2157 01:39:42,970 --> 01:39:38,840 burns here you need to be rushed to the 2158 01:39:44,230 --> 01:39:42,980 emergency room and was and was diagnosed 2159 01:39:46,900 --> 01:39:44,240 with second-degree burns her eyes 2160 01:39:49,420 --> 01:39:46,910 swelled up pretty bad she couldn't read 2161 01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:49,430 or had to wear dark glasses had lotion 2162 01:39:57,490 --> 01:39:53,810 applied and the whole deal and started 2163 01:39:59,830 --> 01:39:57,500 to feel really strange beyond that very 2164 01:40:02,260 --> 01:39:59,840 disoriented there's a number of cases 2165 01:40:05,610 --> 01:40:02,270 where students described like gait eNOS 2166 01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:05,620 or weird feelings inside their head 2167 01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:08,690 pride you know things like this and she 2168 01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:10,010 was describing something that seems 2169 01:40:12,550 --> 01:40:10,970 similar to this 2170 01:40:15,370 --> 01:40:12,560 but was most than you 2171 01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:15,380 in three weeks following this sighting 2172 01:40:20,700 --> 01:40:17,090 she was apparently beamed by this thing 2173 01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:20,710 because she grew about a foot and became 2174 01:40:26,770 --> 01:40:25,130 much more mature her yeah he became much 2175 01:40:29,440 --> 01:40:26,780 more mature now we've seen this in 2176 01:40:32,980 --> 01:40:29,450 plants there's a number of cases out 2177 01:40:35,350 --> 01:40:32,990 there all across the world really where 2178 01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:35,360 UFOs have been have struck plant life 2179 01:40:41,950 --> 01:40:39,530 and accelerated its growth I know of a 2180 01:40:43,660 --> 01:40:41,960 case in California our case in Colorado 2181 01:40:46,780 --> 01:40:43,670 I know Jacques de Molay investigating 2182 01:40:49,750 --> 01:40:46,790 cases like this but this is as far as I 2183 01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:49,760 know one of the few cases involving you 2184 01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:51,410 know this sort of thing but I've heard 2185 01:40:54,610 --> 01:40:52,970 others I had someone contact me on 2186 01:40:56,710 --> 01:40:54,620 Facebook he's like I grew two inches 2187 01:40:57,460 --> 01:40:56,720 following my encounter and that's what 2188 01:41:03,040 --> 01:40:57,470 happened 2189 01:41:05,050 --> 01:41:03,050 as well Wow a very well known you know 2190 01:41:07,150 --> 01:41:05,060 speaker on this subject Jack and the 2191 01:41:09,070 --> 01:41:07,160 Beanstalk we have a four minutes left 2192 01:41:12,790 --> 01:41:09,080 and we have a couple of callers waiting 2193 01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:12,800 here so let's bring in Vince from Ohio 2194 01:41:17,890 --> 01:41:16,370 welcome to the show Vince hi Martin hi 2195 01:41:20,980 --> 01:41:17,900 Pressman 2196 01:41:23,980 --> 01:41:20,990 let me say I apologize if it's been 2197 01:41:28,690 --> 01:41:23,990 asked already but you got interested in 2198 01:41:31,090 --> 01:41:28,700 the us whole field because of sightings 2199 01:41:33,700 --> 01:41:31,100 that your family had seen or experiences 2200 01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:33,710 your family attend can you give us 2201 01:41:40,440 --> 01:41:38,330 details on that please yeah I'd say my I 2202 01:41:43,060 --> 01:41:40,450 mentioned earlier my brother saw a UFO 2203 01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:43,070 it was a metallic saucer had his two 2204 01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:44,690 friends with and I'm like mark oh you're 2205 01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:46,730 kidding he was like no bill and Greg 2206 01:41:49,810 --> 01:41:48,170 were there so I immediately called up 2207 01:41:51,430 --> 01:41:49,820 Phil and Greg and they all described 2208 01:41:54,250 --> 01:41:51,440 this metallic saucer with colored lights 2209 01:41:55,660 --> 01:41:54,260 on it now my sister-in-law described the 2210 01:41:58,030 --> 01:41:55,670 sighting number van nuys air force 2211 01:42:00,670 --> 01:41:58,040 reserve base and then later told me she 2212 01:42:02,770 --> 01:42:00,680 saw a gray e t--'s I'm like where did 2213 01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:02,780 you see them says it was right in front 2214 01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:05,330 of Stagg Street Elementary School in Van 2215 01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:08,930 Nuys and I'm like wow you know in front 2216 01:42:12,220 --> 01:42:10,130 of an elementary school you got to be 2217 01:42:13,690 --> 01:42:12,230 kidding it's like no they were right 2218 01:42:16,450 --> 01:42:13,700 there under the spotlight she was ten 2219 01:42:19,180 --> 01:42:16,460 feet away from them and described them 2220 01:42:22,650 --> 01:42:19,190 very well as you're no typical gray that 2221 01:42:25,900 --> 01:42:22,660 we know now so that was another real 2222 01:42:26,529 --> 01:42:25,910 [\h__\h] in my armor and what I brought it 2223 01:42:28,990 --> 01:42:26,539 up at work 2224 01:42:30,430 --> 01:42:29,000 I got a real shock the lady's like oh 2225 01:42:32,229 --> 01:42:30,440 yeah I mean my whole family saw this 2226 01:42:35,049 --> 01:42:32,239 objects darting around for over an hour 2227 01:42:36,970 --> 01:42:35,059 and in walks Dorothea and she's like oh 2228 01:42:38,740 --> 01:42:36,980 UFOs one phone me and my sister home 2229 01:42:41,049 --> 01:42:38,750 from the library we live five minutes 2230 01:42:44,259 --> 01:42:41,059 away don't know what happened we left at 2231 01:42:47,229 --> 01:42:44,269 nine didn't get home till 10:15 Wow 2232 01:42:48,490 --> 01:42:47,239 there's so much of it when you ask Vince 2233 01:42:50,049 --> 01:42:48,500 thanks for the call I'm gonna have to 2234 01:42:52,169 --> 01:42:50,059 let you go because we only have a couple 2235 01:42:55,930 --> 01:42:52,179 minutes left we have one other caller 2236 01:42:59,859 --> 01:42:55,940 thank you okay all right all right we 2237 01:43:01,660 --> 01:42:59,869 have Andy a quick question Andy thank 2238 01:43:04,270 --> 01:43:01,670 you for joining the show and quick 2239 01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:04,280 question for Preston and you're from 2240 01:43:09,310 --> 01:43:07,489 Connecticut thanks for the call yeah 2241 01:43:10,180 --> 01:43:09,320 yeah thanks for taking my call guys good 2242 01:43:12,220 --> 01:43:10,190 show 2243 01:43:16,930 --> 01:43:12,230 I just wanted Preston's opinion real 2244 01:43:19,629 --> 01:43:16,940 quick that you know given his long past 2245 01:43:21,609 --> 01:43:19,639 of studying UFOs and and all the 2246 01:43:24,700 --> 01:43:21,619 literature out there that's available to 2247 01:43:29,229 --> 01:43:24,710 us all wouldn't he say that it's 2248 01:43:31,509 --> 01:43:29,239 probably likely that the issue of what 2249 01:43:35,020 --> 01:43:31,519 the extra-terrestrial hypothesis is is 2250 01:43:36,910 --> 01:43:35,030 far more complex than a lot of people 2251 01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:36,920 would make it out to be what they're 2252 01:43:41,470 --> 01:43:39,170 just being a few races here and there 2253 01:43:43,779 --> 01:43:41,480 that it's just like you're on earth 2254 01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:43,789 we've got good people bad people you 2255 01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:46,730 know and everybody in between and I'll 2256 01:43:50,709 --> 01:43:48,650 take his answer off the air yeah thank 2257 01:43:53,379 --> 01:43:50,719 you again guys thank you yeah we have 2258 01:43:57,459 --> 01:43:53,389 one minute all right so if you cancel a 2259 01:43:59,140 --> 01:43:57,469 minute yeah yeah yeah yeah great 2260 01:44:01,089 --> 01:43:59,150 questions far more complicated I do 2261 01:44:03,700 --> 01:44:01,099 believe we're dealing with ETS in the 2262 01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:03,710 classic sense but there's an extra you 2263 01:44:07,750 --> 01:44:05,210 know an interdimensional aspect to all 2264 01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:07,760 of this there's many more races there's 2265 01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:09,530 a huge cover-up there's layers and 2266 01:44:14,799 --> 01:44:12,650 layers to this phenomena that is hard to 2267 01:44:16,839 --> 01:44:14,809 unravel I think we're going to see open 2268 01:44:19,509 --> 01:44:16,849 official contact at some point I think 2269 01:44:21,580 --> 01:44:19,519 we're gonna see ongoing disclosure 2270 01:44:23,500 --> 01:44:21,590 there's gonna be a lot of movement in 2271 01:44:25,899 --> 01:44:23,510 this field as time goes on but we'll see 2272 01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:25,909 how it rolls out yeah thanks for making 2273 01:44:30,009 --> 01:44:28,489 that a quick answer and I want to say 2274 01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:30,019 thank you so much has been a pleasure 2275 01:44:34,870 --> 01:44:33,050 and one more time schoolyard UFO 2276 01:44:38,890 --> 01:44:34,880 encounters and you can get that on 2277 01:44:40,299 --> 01:44:38,900 Amazon and also on your website that's 2278 01:44:41,649 --> 01:44:40,309 right all right 2279 01:44:44,290 --> 01:44:41,659 again Preston's always a pleasure 2280 01:44:46,389 --> 01:44:44,300 talking to you hey thanks very much 2281 01:44:48,029 --> 01:44:46,399 all right all right everyone so thanks 2282 01:44:51,239 --> 01:44:48,039 so much for joining the show next week 2283 01:44:52,569 --> 01:44:51,249 we have a real sciency show we have 2284 01:44:56,079 --> 01:44:52,579 astrophysicist 2285 01:45:00,790 --> 01:44:56,089 Jeffrey Bennett on and after him we have 2286 01:45:02,259 --> 01:45:00,800 deep Prasad and he is a quantum 2287 01:45:04,750 --> 01:45:02,269 physicist he's going to be talking about 2288 01:45:07,179 --> 01:45:04,760 UFOs should be a real nice science if 2289 01:45:10,299 --> 01:45:07,189 you like science it'll be a nice science 2290 01:45:12,699 --> 01:45:10,309 e show and we welcome you to join us so 2291 01:45:15,969 --> 01:45:12,709 I want to thank everyone for listening 2292 01:45:17,830 --> 01:45:15,979 and we'll be back next week and keep